Posted on 01/07/2019 7:38:26 AM PST by artichokegrower
Kurdish forces in Syria said Sunday that they had captured two American citizens hiding out in the country's final Islamic State stronghold.
In a statement, the Syrian Democratic Forces, or SDF, identified the detainees as Warren Christopher Clark, 34, and Zaid Abed al-Hamid, 35. It said the pair had been captured alongside three others suspected of being foreign recruits in the extremist group.
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Indoctrinating young minds in American schools to be accepting of the ways of Islam. Please keep these two over there and do not bring them back here.
There was also an Irish Man in the ISIS group.
1 to the head and 1 to the chest, each.
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Alexandr Ruzmatovich Bekmirzaev (45), who is originally from Belarus, came to Ireland in the early 2000s and obtained Irish citizenship and an Irish passport. Photograph: Syrian Democratic Forces
Irish Isis terrorist captured in Syria was on Garda watchlist
A suspected Islamic State terrorist captured by Kurdish-led forces in Syria a week ago lived in Ireland for about a decade and was on a Garda watchlist here.
Alexandr Ruzmatovich Bekmirzaev (45), who is originally from Belarus, came to Ireland in the early 2000s and obtained Irish citizenship and an Irish passport. He worked in retail and as a security guard in Dublin during his time here, sources said.
During his time in the State, gardaí received information from a foreign intelligence agency that he was an active supporter of radical Islamist groups. He was put on a watchlist and monitored by members of the Special Detective Unit.
In 2013 he left for the Middle East, where it is understood he joined a group linked to Islamic State, also known as Isis. He made his way to Syria, where he fought in the civil war there which has to date claimed almost 400,000 lives.
The Department of Justice has previously estimated that about 50 Irish citizens have travelled to Syria to fight in its civil war, many of them for extremist groups like Isis. At least three have been killed in the fighting.
The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which is battling the remnants of Isis in Syria, announced yesterday that it had arrested the man in the city of Deir al-Zor along with two US and two Pakistani fighters.
In a statement, the SDF, a US-supported militia, said Isis terrorists had attempted several attacks on its forces recently.
In this context, a group of terrorists who had been preparing to attack the civilians who were trying to get out of the war zone in masses was detected.
Asked about the matter, a Garda spokesman said: The individual may be identical to a naturalised Irish citizen who, it is understood, departed Ireland in 2013. An Garda Síochána is monitoring the reported development.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said he had been informed that an Irish passport holder, an Irish citizen had been taken into custody in Syria.
We dont know the details of that so I cant comment on it in any detail, but what I can say is that any Irish citizen around the world is entitled to consular assistance and will get that, he told reporters during a visit to Mali.
A Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman said it was looking into the matter but had not received any requests for consular assistance.
Wake up call
Security and anti-terrorism expert Declan Power said it was a matter of concern that the man captured in Syria had obtained Irish citizenship despite coming to the attention of the Gardas crime and security branch.
We cant be complacent about the reach of extremism into this State from other locations. Its a wake up call for us not to be complacent, said Mr Power, a former member of the Defence Forces.
It behoves us to look a bit more closely at how somebody was able to obtain citizenship if they were under suspicion of activities that would be damaging to this State and our partner states.
We shouldnt be entirely surprised that an Irish citizen has been found. Its not that long ago since the death of Terence Kelly who was born and raised in Ireland who had gone off to throw in his lot with Islamic State.
What should be a matter for concern is that this individual is alleged to have come to Ireland from another State, settled here with his family and worked and obtained Irish citizenship, Mr Power told RTÉs Morning Ireland.
Somewhere along the line he came to the attention of the Garda Síochánas crime and security branch apparently based on reports from external partner agencies.
Maybe what we need to look at more closely is the level of scrutiny we can apply to somebody when they come to the State. If this individual managed to obtain citizenship and yet seemed to have been engaged in activities outside of the State before he came here, it raises questions that are worth asking because this kind of thing is not going to die off just because Islamic State, one iteration of extremism, is dying out, but extremism isnt dead and gone with the death of Islamic State.
Kelly (49), a former nurse from the Liberties in Dublin, who was also known as Taliban Terry or Khalid Kelly, died after carrying out an Islamic State suicide bombing in Iraq in November 2016, according to the jihadist group.
Waste of ammo. One to the head, each. These are terrorists who support slavery - in particular the sex slavery of women (and children), and they support the murder of innocents. These predators are a useless addition to humanity's carbon footprint, and I'd be happy to see them stop polluting (one of the rare times I would enjoy making Al Gore happy). But why use more ammo than necessary?
Obama would be negotiating for their release.
How a rope? It can be reused. If done properly, hanging can be an agonizing way to die. (See what I did there?)
Why werent they executed on the battlefield. Or released with announcement they were working for US and let ISIS take care of the?
Put them all in an 8 by 8 by 8 cage and drop it in a fire...
So many choices. Perhaps we need trial and error to see which works best - except that permanent solutions to the problems posed by terrorists are never an error.
Drag ‘em behind a camel until dead.
I like the idea of releasing ‘sensitive information’ then allowing them to escape back to the ISIS side.
OTOH, I am sure the KURDs have ways to handle the ‘problem’.
They have to be careful though, we now have a MILITARY and a GOVERNMENT that is allowing AMERICAN TROOPS to be criminally charged with ‘battlefield crimes’ while fighting an enemy who doesn’t ID himself etc.
WHY is the American Government letting this farce go on ESPECIALLY in light of them (US GOVT) proclaiming an admitted deserter who ‘caused’ the death of some of his rescuers (when ‘believed’ he had been abducted?) then traded him for 5 ISIS(?) combatants...
Then another US Army malcontent was running for the US Senate in MD...
Seems we reward the slugs and jail the heroes.
Thanks artichokegrower.
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