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To: Alas Babylon!

This is a bit secret but very powerful and happened to me Fri night:

Oregonians,
Folks, we have a nuclear weapon and we don’t even know it. Last night Walt invited me to go to Senator Wyden’s Townhall in Sherwood and hesitantly I went figuring what a waste of time. I arrived late while they were honoring a dead WWII vet who was wounded during the war which we gave a standing ovation.

During the Q&A Wyden saw some of us were not enthused about Nationalized Healthcare and he asked if any of us had any questions from the other side. He knew he would dominate since this is his favorite topic. I raised my hand and gave my situation of having to pay 25K per year for Obamacare and co-pays and he gave the usual Medicare for all, blah, blah, blah.

They later bragged about an Oregon petition for Single Payer coming in 2020 which Wyden said he will help them on. It was the usual stuff you would expect from a Dem rally and one asked why I was even there with my mumbling and remarks to Walt.

We had been given tickets when we entered and they would call random numbers so the DNC cult members could ask their I hate Trump more than you do or can the gummit help me more questions. It was a complete borefest, then they called my number.

When I stood Senator Wyden tried to shut me down since I had already asked a question and they were taking the mike away from me, so I loudly said, “I want to talk about the forest fires!” It stopped the room.

We from there debated for nearly 10 mins with me asking about his bill he wrote and had signed by President Trump which I commended was a good start giving a brief highlight of it, then went on; but the forests are the heart of all of these issues you are talking about, suicides, opiate addiction, school funding and unemployment in these rural areas of Oregon and need real solutions. I asked why does the Federal Govt control over 50% of the state?

He, Senator of the United States for 25 years and forest expert had no answer to why the people cannot own land the Federal Govt controls in Oregon. He gave some lame, “it was settled 100 years ago” excuse and when I said no it wasn’t, he started calling me names. He had no answers and finally went to Global Warming which I shot down as to not explaining why these forests are burning. Could have mentioned that forest fires add to Global Warming in tragic amounts…

He finally turned around and made some pledge that no special interest will own the forests in Oregon. My answer to that should have been, who said anything about special interests, I want everyone in this room to be able to own some of the forests in Oregon. Why shouldn’t they?

The point is, even though we are wanting and right in directing this to be 75-90% a spiritual argument and direction, the political side is a nuclear bomb. They have no answer. On a night and a room of rabid liberals who worship their govt god and the forests, they were listening to what I was saying and nobody was booing me like they would if it was political about The Wall or something he was expecting.

We do not have to go political since they have no argument when you simply say the forests are burning and we cannot breathe from June to Sept while they burn, people listen. Even libs get it and their clichés go out the window as they listen for solutions to smoky air and burning homes.

This was not an I win, you lose debate; it was a how do we solve this problem and what are you talking about discussion which he had no way of combating. When I said it was not settled he looked startled and said I was uninformed, but he did not know where to go especially since we know it has not been settled and if anything in 1825 was settled in our favor and again in Hawaii by the Supreme Court both times. They will lose that argument if he headed down the Enabling Act path. We have a very strong argument.

Folks, this was one of the most powerful men in America and he had no answers and one of the most hardcore of his Party. It destroyed his entire Townhall and made it the most interesting 10 mins of the night. Not because of me, because this message is powerful and he knew where it was going. He knew it is about worshiping God and managing his creation or worshiping the forests and govt and it terrified him.

It is an emotional argument he is on the wrong side of for once. It was about the soul of this State and that is not where he wants to go since the govt cannot fix that.

It is not an argument he can win with a cute jingle or an evil boogie man but goes to the heart of Oregon and the heart of Oregonians. We need to stay out of politics and as that room full of Dems showed, even they are open to a message about why are the forests burning and you could tell there were many who would vote our way.

This is the 25% you would expect to fight us and they were listening without the heckling you would expect. This cuts across the entire spectrum spiritually and politically.

This was shocking the power this has. Completely unprepared and off the cuff discussing what we have been learning over the last year and a powerful establishment Senator had no answers and stunned into a puddle


13 posted on 01/06/2019 5:22:13 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: bray

Good for you Bray. Proud of you speaking truth to power.


15 posted on 01/06/2019 5:33:56 AM PST by shalom aleichem (Fire Rod and Mueller and any other rat or snake. Shutter the press room.)
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To: bray

You are very lucky the Dems. were willing to debate you. It many situations, snide remarks will be made, wisecracks or put downs. The media will jump in and do a report, with bias and no objectivity. There are so many people programmed to think one way on an issue. There is often no understanding but rehearsed brainwashed talking points. It proves many people are uninformed and do not want to hear other views.


20 posted on 01/06/2019 5:55:57 AM PST by FreedBird
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To: bray
It is an emotional argument he is on the wrong side of for once. It was about the soul of this State and that is not where he wants to go since the govt cannot fix that. It is not an argument he can win with a cute jingle or an evil boogie man but goes to the heart of Oregon and the heart of Oregonians. We need to stay out of politics and as that room full of Dems showed, even they are open to a message about why are the forests burning and you could tell there were many who would vote our way. This is the 25% you would expect to fight us and they were listening without the heckling you would expect. This cuts across the entire spectrum spiritually and politically.

I read an article on Zerohedge this week that dealt with the Fourth Turning (Strauss-Howe).

The summary was that we are in for a revolution, possibly war, over the next five years.

As a reinforcing point the newly elected Muslim who called Trump an MRer appeared to me to re-enforce the article's points.

32 posted on 01/06/2019 6:36:29 AM PST by DanZ
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To: bray

Great stuff bray and this is what it takes standing up against the deep state and destroying them with logic and knowledge. You did it and continue to do it week after week great job!


40 posted on 01/06/2019 6:59:21 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: bray

Wow! Your post is amazing, and ENCOURAGING!
As a Southern Oregon resident, I applaud your “speaking truth to power”, and giving conservatives an issue that even the rabid liberals have little defense against.
God bless you, Bray!
You SMOKED Wyden!


47 posted on 01/06/2019 7:09:18 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: bray

Way to go Bray!! I suggest we all start attending Townhall type meetings in our respective areas-whether they are Dems or Reps.


67 posted on 01/06/2019 7:48:41 AM PST by pugmama (Come fly with me.)
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To: bray

Great to hear, Bray. I would likely have only asked the crowd “Did you know our “Oregon Senator” lives with his family in NEW YORK?


71 posted on 01/06/2019 7:57:12 AM PST by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: bray

Wow!

Great job.

Have you noticed any strange clicks and popping noises on your phones?

Any white service vans parked nearby?


76 posted on 01/06/2019 8:12:09 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Boycott ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NBC!)
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