Posted on 12/27/2018 5:42:58 PM PST by upchuck
Dr. Peter Pry is the Executive Director of the EMP Task Force.
Pry explains there are three sources of EMP: the sun, nuclear weapons, and non-nuclear weapons.
The entire world would be affected, putting “electric grids and critical infrastructures” as well as “billions of lives” at risk. Pry believes it is “inevitable” that we will be struck by a Carrington-class geomagnetic storms, for “it’s not a question of if, but it’s a question of when will that happen.”
A second EMP threat stems from nuclear weapons “detonated at high altitude” of 30 to 400 kilometers. “A single nuclear weapon detonated at that altitude would create an electromagnetic field that would cover all of North America, most of Canada and a good part of Mexico.”
Non-nuclear EMP weapons, or radio frequency, weapons are a third cause for concern. “A non-nuclear EMP weapon has very limited range, typically a hundred yards or so, but the electric grid is so fragile that if you had a terrorist or criminal organization” with multiple radio frequency weapons, they “could cause a nationwide blackout” by attacking high-voltage (HV) transformers.
As the chief of staff of the congressional EMP commission for 17 years, he notes a number of concerns. Aircraft would fall from the sky and automobiles would fail to start. Water would no longer be available in homes. “We only have enough food to feed 326 million people for 30 days and the food would begin to spoil within 72 hours.”
Should a nationwide blackout occur for as long as a year, the EMP commission reports “90% of our population could starve to death, die from disease and societal chaos, and collapse.”
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Thank you. I can’t understand why nothing has been done to harden the grid.
We should be more wisely concerned about the many moves like the following along with the flood of propaganda we’ve been seeing from the east for a few years.
VLAD’S NUKE ISLAND Russia is setting up a military base on Caribbean island to host NUCLEAR BOMBERS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3715520/posts
As expected, some denials appeared in the thread. Those were debunked in the thread. The Kremlin has been probably been planning that base for about ten years. It’s one of quite a few. And the propaganda word, russophilia, has been used in Russian propaganda writing circles for longer than most of you realize.
And there is China, also reaching out and expanding around the world militarily while cracking down internally on speech and other rights. Fascist and communist nations are expansionist by nature. They’ll get around to attacking our nation soon enough.
It appears to be difficult to harden the grid because of the needed long lines. But extra components like transformers can be stored.
I watched A VIEW TO A KILL(1985)...In that film, Agent 007 recovers a special microchip from the dead British agent in Siberia. That microchip is not affected by EMP attack...Bond tries to investigate if Max Zorin is shipping that microchip to Soviet Union from his English factories...
In GOLDENEYE(1995), rogue Russians use the satellite weapon against the secret facility in Siberia...EMP from the weapon crippled the Russian MIG fighters in the process...
The computer is on a UPS, and a different circuit. Oversized house wiring too. The screen stayed on as well as my modem, printer and microwave transmitter.
A flash burn out like that gives out a single burst like an old spark gap transmitter.
It’s insane not to do what needs to be done.
and this a few minutes after I just ordered the darn book...lol
re: “We are pretty sure the grid will go down hard.”
YOU have no hard data.
Are you going to cite those series-wired street lamps in Hawaii?
C’mon, man. This is like the Global Warming scam - all you’ve got are modes, modelling data, and a few anecdotes ...
Oh, it’s a good read for fiction. Fascinating adventure, really. Just bear in mind that people with knowledge rebuild fairly quickly, some more than others according to their culture.
re: “It is not considered overblown by most utilities.”
Yeah, because, no one is talking rationally. It’s a big money-maker for those doing the sales job. If you don’t see the potential for graft and corruption in this, ALL you need do is study the global warming hysteronics.
The utilities will believe almost anything the ‘priestly’ class (the so-called physicists) peddling this story.
Again, give me a good case example of damage done during ANY of the nuclear above tests that were performed.
Don’t cite that never-proven wive’s tale about the LOOOONG power line run in the USSR ... the ‘physics’ don’t add up on the purported line they cite alone, never mind the influence by EMP.
re: “ This was written by the foremost expert on the subject”
Models - more “models”?
Again, where’s your ‘field’ data ...
re: “EMP is not a hoax. it has been demonstrated.”
Where?
Cite please ....
(And don’t cite that antiquated series-string of street lights in Hawaii)
re: “Think cascade failure... One part of the grid goes down and takes another part with it. Repeat as necessary.”
Uh - uh.
Prepare to ‘island’ (separate the big eastern grid into a series of smaller grids) for one thing. Don’t rely on far-away ‘dispatch’ of power.
Plan. If we are headed for a situation where a belligerent is gonna launch a nuke, DON’T schedule for the use of far-away cheaper electricity, fire up those gas turbines SO the effect is less pronounced.
Yeah - yeah, I know you don’t KNOW this stuff, because you’ve never been to school on it ... BUT everybody is a damned expert WHEN they haven’t the foggiest idea how the ‘grid’ is set up in the first place.
re: “Look up the 1965 northeast blackout. A single point of failure took down many parts of the grid.”
That was a dumb mistake, but things have improved since then.
We even learned from the 1989 event where a pretty good magnetic storm upset some lines in the higher latitudes between Canada and the NE.
For one thing, planning, re-routing, not depending on such long transmission of power. Such “economic dispatch” is DONE for economic reasons - Canada has some huge hydro plants and that power is brought down to the NE including New York area for consumption at cheap prices.
This isn’t just a “sit and wait to be blown out of the water” game.
re: “Never mind. I’ll do a copy-and-paste below the following credits to show you the part about tests on cars and trucks.”
Ya.
HOW did they arrive at those field-strength values they “tested” at?
Models.
Yes, that’s right, models. Like global warming “figures”.
Models.
“A Carrington-event is much more of a threat than a man made EMP.”Man, you DO need to take some power engineering courses.Maybe. But we will have at least a couple of days warning before the next “Carrington”. We will see it coming.
We could do a lot in a couple of days to prevent grid damage should we encounter another “Carrington” event.
1989 taught the industry what to do.
Here is what is typically found "in the book" to give you some idea of what will be done for a 'solar event':
Page 66 of this document:
https://www.pjm.com/-/media/documents/manuals/m13-future-20180101.ashx
Titled as follow:
"3.7 Geo-Magnetic Disturbance (GMD) Operating Plan (EOP-010-1)"
PJM media blurb - not as informative:
https://www.pjm.com/-/media/about-pjm/newsroom/fact-sheets/geomagnetic-disturbances-fact-sheet.ashx?la=en
re: “It appears to be difficult to harden the grid because of the needed long lines. But extra components like transformers can be stored.”
Its nice to know we have top men working on this.
I say, Top. Men.
Do you have a degree or something like that in this field?
Just askin ...
re: “A Carrington-event is much more of a threat than a man made EMP.”
See my post on the PJM docs to RFEngineer a few posts up.
re: “The problem is that EMP does not dissipate at the square of the distance as you think it does, because the actual EMP is generated in the atmosphere, over large areas. So the EMP pulse is generated, almost uniformly, over very large geographic areas.”
That’s not possible.
EVERYTHING including radiation obeys the inverse square law - it thins out as the beam broadens. Real simple. Even laser beams ‘diverage’ ... the opposite is “perfect collimation” meaning it would be a cylinder going on FOREVER. You have to have inverse square law, otherwise, you’d have a physics law violation concerning energy balance.
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