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A new Seattle housing law forbids landlords from checking tenants’ criminal history [tr]
marketwatch ^ | Dec. 27, 2018 | Andrew Keshner

Posted on 12/27/2018 9:51:32 AM PST by bgill

With slews of tent encampments in a fast-growing city flush with tech-sector cash, it’s tough questioning Seattle’s serious problem with homelessness and affordable housing. But an unprecedented new city law — forbidding landlords from checking into potential renters’ criminal past — is very much in dispute and setting up a closely-watched court battle. Landlords argue their free speech, property rights and possibly their safety is being jeopardized by a law that forces them to close their eyes to relevant public information about possible tenants. They’re backed by landlord groups and background screeners who call the ordinance a perilous precedent. The “Fair Chance Housing Act” was anything but that, according to landlords’ lawyers. Ethan Blevins, an attorney at the Pacific Legal Foundation, said the law’s premise “is this paternalistic idea that the city gets to decide what information is relevant or important to a landlord’s decision making process.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: backgroundcheck; rental; seattle
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To: bgill

Really, many of these men won’t likely be fully rehabilitated unless they can find a good woman to marry.

So I guess it should be illegal for women to reject an offer for a date or living together or marriage due to felon status.


41 posted on 12/27/2018 11:20:48 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Reno89519
...If the person has no active warrants, is not violating the law by trying to rent (e.g., no restrictions on living within x feet of something), it is not the property owner's business what their history is. The only issue is whether they have financial ability to pay, maybe some references. If a person is currently able to pay, regardless of felon, gun ownership, past bankruptcy, party membership, etc. they should be able to rent. It is a financial transaction, nothing more. Otherwise, like recently in Boston, a place kicks out someone because she owns a gun...

As a landlord with multi-family properties, I call BS on your ideas.

My business model is that I keep my units filled, my tenants happy, and my rents coming in, by operating a family friendly, squeaky clean complex. I will always prefer a family I think will appreciate a family atmosphere over people with a history of drug offenses. And my experience has been that tenants with a history of petty theft means that cars in the parking lot are going to be subject to burglary and vandalism. Low-life tenants litter the grounds with cigarette butts and miscellaneous trash. What is unfair about excluding those with a probability of being bad tenants? There are places with less stringent rules.

Are you telling me I can't run my business on my model?

I follow the law and do not discriminate on the basis of any protected attributes, but being blind to past bad behavior is just asking for trouble. Actions have consequences and prior criminal behavior is an indication of a bad attitude.

42 posted on 12/27/2018 11:24:06 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: philetus

After so many incidents, the property is seized by liberal bureaucrats.


43 posted on 12/27/2018 11:28:09 AM PST by wally_bert (We're low on dimes in fun city.)
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To: wally_bert

Yes, I found the same. Within same year or two, once I could show ability to pay no one cared. It still irks me when I get a form asking if I have EVER filed bankruptcy.


44 posted on 12/27/2018 11:32:42 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Engedi

Real Estate Investment Trusts


45 posted on 12/27/2018 11:36:03 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: wardaddy

Never ever get a Chase card. Evil criminals. Hubby brought one in to our marriage and spent forever trying to get the balance to zero. Couldn’t. Paid it off every month but they had some bleepin’ policy that the couple weeks between them mailing the statement and when they credited the account (before the due date), interest accrued even with no new purchases. Never heard of such bs from any other card. Talked and talked to them but they could never resolve it. Finally, wrote them a larger check to cover any mysterious invisible and highly illegal (imo) interest and told them what they could do with their card.


46 posted on 12/27/2018 11:36:07 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: CurlyDave
Your level of rent should filter out undesirables. Anyway, once you get past their ability to pay and whether they have any active restrictions, the rest is very subjective and most often discriminatory--rent to non-gun owner, rent or not to someone with no kids, rent or not to someone of a particular religion, rent or not to someone of certain age, rent or not to someone based on attire or car or something. It is all a slippery slope.

Having owned, been rentee, and renter, I have zero sympathy for owners sued for bias or discrimination of any form. End of day it is a business transaction, nothing more or less.

47 posted on 12/27/2018 11:36:55 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

We had thought of moving and renting this place out to vacationers. Then reality hit. Sure, there’s good money to be made but I’d just as soon not have them stealing everything not nailed down.


48 posted on 12/27/2018 11:39:19 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: KC_for_Freedom

We had problems with kiddo’s college roommates not paying their share. That’s probably why they’re filthy rich and we’re not. Every other month we got a notice from the complex saying they hadn’t received all the rent and we’d have to argue that we paid our share. Yeah, yeah, we shouldn’t have signed the contract. I threw a hissy fit and refused to be a party but Mr. b went ahead and signed it. Of course, I was the one who had to devote hours to making them pay and keep our credit good.


49 posted on 12/27/2018 11:47:56 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ealgeone

Remember when Wells Fargo loaned money for houses to illegals?


50 posted on 12/27/2018 11:48:57 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

So....you’re supposed to follow a law that makes you ignore people that don’t follow the law?


51 posted on 12/27/2018 11:51:06 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: bgill

The city can not enforce such a law.

If you can’t show you are not a criminal, go somewhere else to live.

If your are a criminal, your rent goes up time ten.


52 posted on 12/27/2018 11:55:07 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: Reno89519

A 30 year old bankruptcy is a bit different than knifing someone in the alley behind the bar.


53 posted on 12/27/2018 11:56:20 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

yes i do!!! next door neighbors bought 2 houses in the ‘hood. Trashed the one next door to me- moved over to their other house. Trashed that 1 also....surprise!
Loans were taken out in little old lady’s name- family that moved in ( and showed up to the closing, per the seller) no abuela in sight. Bank of America’s done some damage in that category as well.


54 posted on 12/27/2018 12:15:23 PM PST by ronniesgal (warning- you will probably be offended by something I type, if you are looking to be.)
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To: wardaddy

Insurance companies now routinely check your credit rating before providing insurance. IMO that should be illegal. If I have the money up front to pay for insurance, and a good driving record, which can be proven from state motor vehicle records, my credit rating is none of their business, period.


55 posted on 12/27/2018 1:25:01 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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To: bgill

Landlords will set credit score and deposit requirements high enough to screen out 95% of the “undesirables”.

Thomas Sowell’s “Discrimination and Discrepancies” book busts the liberal myths behind this law.

Companies that do criminal background checks hire MORE blacks instead of less, because they can vet and exclude the criminals. Ban background checks, and they simply hire fewer lower class people and fewer ethnic minorities.


56 posted on 12/27/2018 1:47:30 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They’ll sell them to buyers who can afford them, excluding the renting poor.


57 posted on 12/27/2018 1:48:00 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The alternatives are renting out on AirBnB for income or renting it out as work-space / storage.


58 posted on 12/27/2018 1:48:35 PM PST by tbw2
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To: bgill

Chase bought my home mortgage from Citi who bought it from Allied who bought it from First Tenn Bank who originated it in 2009

My only real credit card is a Bass Pro Mastercard underwritten by a major bank

Which also just got switched from BOA when Bass bought Cabelas

U have to have a credit card today to rent cars sadly


59 posted on 12/27/2018 3:31:04 PM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: cyclotic

I bet she’d have a hard time getting an auto loan

But good luck

Going through life with zero credit would very tough to create businesses

You’d need a lot of rich equity partners

My oldest son has no credit either

Same reason


60 posted on 12/27/2018 3:33:27 PM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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