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Bipartisan Support is Growing for Gun Confiscation in 2019
Mises Institute ^ | December 26, 2018 | José Niño

Posted on 12/26/2018 2:36:47 PM PST by Mafe

Is gun confiscation coming to Congress?

The 2018 midterm elections produced a split Congress with Democrats gaining control of the House and Republicans gaining seats in the Senate.

The chattering DC classes are already speculating about the Democrat’s plans to subpoena Trump’s tax records and Senate Republicans’ moves to consolidate their hold of the federal judiciary. But amid the DC gossip, a new threat is being overlooked—red flag gun confiscation orders.

The Guardian detailed House Democrats’ desire to pass gun control legislation in the upcoming Congress:

“Ted Deutch, a Democratic congressman from Florida who represents Parkland, where a February school shooting left 17 dead, said this week that he expected House Democrats to focus on bills with more bipartisan support. Those measures included bump stock bans and “extreme risk protection orders”, also known as red flag laws, which give law enforcement and family members a way to petition a court to temporarily bar an unstable person from buying or owning guns.”

With the cries for gun control growing stronger, the federal government may finally give in to public pressure to “do something.” Red flag laws might just be the “come together” moment establishment politicians have been looking for. What Are Red Flag Laws?

Red flag laws or Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs) are the euphemistic label for the gun control push du jure blazing across the nation. Under red flag laws, law enforcement has the ability to confiscate an individual’s firearms who is deemed a threat to themselves or others. A simple accusation from a family member, friend, or associate will suffice to seize someone’s firearms.

These laws, mind you, operate in complete violation of due process. Individuals can take their accusers to court, even though the defendant in question has never been charged with or convicted of a crime. Additionally, the defendant could have their weapons confiscated without even so much as a hearing a before a judge. It could take months before a gun owner would have to appear in court to win back his gun rights.

Thirteen states currently have red flag laws on the books, with dozens more filing their own versions. What started out as a state-level movement may have some legs at the federal level. Although it’s true that Congressional Democrats are making gun control a major theme of their legislative agenda, it’s naïve to think red flag laws are only relevant because of “gun-grabbing” Democrats have taken power.

As we’ll see below, red flag laws have a history of bipartisan support. And when any piece of legislation has Democrats and Republicans locking arms in agreement, you know trouble lies ahead. The Gun Control Bipartisan Status Quo

Despite the passionate campaign rhetoric, a significant portion of Republican politicians will change colors on gun rights once in DC. Several GOP members in the upcoming Congress stick out like a sore thumb when it comes to their gun control advocacy:

Lindsay Graham: The South Carolina Senator already introduced a red flag bill earlier this year. With the 116th Congress right around the corner, Graham will likely reach across the aisle with Democrat colleagues to move red flag legislation forward. Graham has opined that red flag legislation is the “place where we begin a long-overdue discussion about firearms and mental health. But we must start.”

Marco Rubio: Following the Parkland shootings, Rubio joined the gun control chorus by sponsoring a red flag bill along with Democrat Senators Joe Manchin, Bill Nelson, & Jack Reed. Rubio has even flirted with the idea of regulations on magazine clips, raising the minimum age to buy certain firearms like AR-15s, and tweaking the current background check system.

Mitt Romney: The incoming Utah Senator has an anti-gun record as Governor of Massachusetts. As Governor, Romney signed an assault weapons ban into law in 2004. In political fashion, Romney obscured his anti-gun act by turning to pro-Second Amendment platitudes during both of his presidential runs in 2008 and 2012. In a 2007 statement, Romney expressed that he does not “support any new gun laws including any new ban on semi-automatic firearms.” Nevertheless, the fallout from the recent Parkland shooting has made Romney reconsider the validity of enhanced background checks.

Rick Scott: Former Governor of Florida and Florida’s new Senator, Rick Scott poses an interesting threat to gun rights. Despite his ostensibly pro-gun rhetoric, Scott signed SB 7026 Florida’s most expansive gun control measure in recent history. Pressured by the outrage from the Parkland School shooting, Scott’s SB 7026 contains red flag provisions, raises the age to buy a firearm to 21, and imposes a three-day waiting period for all firearms purchases.

Trump Administration: Even the Executive branch is joining in on the red flag craze. The Trump Administration’s Commission on School Safety recently released a report recommending red flag laws as a means to “address school safety and violence.” It’s only a matter of time before legislation is introduced in either chamber of Congress now that the Trump administration has endorsed red flag laws.

Even Larry Hogan, the Republican Governor of Maryland, kowtowed to anti-gun pressure. On April 24, 2018, Hogan signed a series of gun bills, one which included a red flag law. In October, the first month Maryland’s red flag law went into effect, there were 114 requests to confiscate individuals’ firearms.

Maryland’s red flag law has not been without its fair share of controversy. At 5 a.m on Monday, November 5, two police officers came knocking on 61-year-old Gary Willis’ door to serve him a court order mandating that he turn over his guns. What seemed like a typical court order, quickly turned deadly as one of the cops shot and killed Willis in a struggle that ensued. Quick to defend one of his own, Anne Arundel County Police Chief Timothy Altomare defended the cops’ action by callously claiming that they “did the best they could with the situation they had.” Anti-Gun Ideology is Growing

The tragic incident in Maryland is an ominous sign of what is to come should red flag laws gain more traction.

Whether or not Republicans will support Congressional iterations of Red Flag laws is anyone’s guess. The bigger problem at hand is an ideological one. When society’s ideological compass is off, government transgressions can come at any time. The passage of red flag laws could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

More than a century’s worth of Progressivism has normalized universalist ideas such as economic controls, big spending, never-ending wars, and now, gun control. Misguided conservatives can debate ad infinitum on the forums or their talk radio shows about how certain Republicans “sell out” or betray their movement.

This, however, ignores how selling out—rubber stamping big government, embracing globalism, and embarking on nation-building—has been the standard operating procedure for many conservatives throughout the last century. Gun rights will be no different.

Gun owners will need to de-program and recognize that decentralization, not the winner-take-all electoral slugfest we see at the federal level every 4 years, is the best way in securing their gun rights.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; congress; govtabuse; guncontrol; tyranny
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With regard to the Maryland incident, I'm glad for the gun owner's sake that he's dead. I know I'd rather be dead than alive and disarmed.
1 posted on 12/26/2018 2:36:47 PM PST by Mafe
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Come and take it!


2 posted on 12/26/2018 2:39:03 PM PST by HighSierra5
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There will be no seizure of citizen firearms. They will simply disappear for the most part.


3 posted on 12/26/2018 2:40:16 PM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Are “the cries for gun control” really “growing stronger”?

Sounds like baloney to me.


4 posted on 12/26/2018 2:40:30 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Cw3


5 posted on 12/26/2018 2:41:19 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians arent born, they’re excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Red Flag Laws:

If you have mental problems your guns can be confiscated without due process.

If you want to own a gun, you must have mental problems.....so your guns will be confiscated without due process.....

6 posted on 12/26/2018 2:42:30 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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...the federal government may finally give in to public pressure to “do something.”

That right there is one of the many things wrong with so-called "gun control" laws. They don't actually work. There's no basis to believe any have, are, or ever will. If someone is willing to commit multiple felonies wholesale, in what fantasy world does anyone believe one or two more laws on the books will make any difference?

However, there's the drumbeat of emotional "do something!" that the pro disarmament {expletives} push. It has nothing, absolutely NOTHING to do with saving lives or making the public safer. Quite the opposite actually. Violent crime rates increase when the law-abiding public is disarmed. Criminals are emboldened by their sense of safety.

No, "gun control" is all about the control, about disarming the general public.

7 posted on 12/26/2018 2:47:08 PM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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The following needs to be repeated over and over and over again by the President to Sarah Sanders to talk radio and whatever ink it can get:

“Every country in history who enslaved their people first disarmed them.”

We better take the creeping tyranny seriously. The satanic left is serious - and they never seem to sleep.


8 posted on 12/26/2018 2:47:35 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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“A simple accusation from a family member, friend, or associate will suffice to seize someone’s firearms.”

Even the draconian CA law restricts the petitioners to LEO and Family, and they must present “clear and convincing evidence the person is a danger to themselves and/or others”.

I’m thinking the author is a tad bit hyperbolic.


9 posted on 12/26/2018 2:50:54 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Come on Gun Confiscation? All 300 million of them? By who? You think all the police officers across America would participate in that? The military? Who do you think owns all these guns?


10 posted on 12/26/2018 2:50:56 PM PST by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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Don’t think for a minute Trump won’t sign it.


11 posted on 12/26/2018 2:53:30 PM PST by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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“All 300 million of them? By who?”

It’s BS click bait.

For the uninformed.


12 posted on 12/26/2018 2:56:41 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Is gun confiscation coming to Congress?”

If the Democrats try to confiscate guns then the gun owners will also be coming to Congress.


13 posted on 12/26/2018 2:58:00 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Mafe

That is pure horse manure. Fake and dishonest news.


14 posted on 12/26/2018 3:00:47 PM PST by mulligan (EeThe)
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To: BenLurkin

>> Are “the cries for gun control” really “growing stronger”? <<

They are if you count the scores of ‘grass roots organizations’ and the millions of fake social media accounts funded by George Soros, Tom Steyer, Michael Bloomberg, and etc.


15 posted on 12/26/2018 3:02:11 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Mafe

Total fake news.


16 posted on 12/26/2018 3:07:23 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: 48th SPS Crusader

They don’t need to take your guns. In concert with banks and mortgage holders they’ll take your property.


17 posted on 12/26/2018 3:08:35 PM PST by 03A3 (FTNFL)
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To: G Larry

“If you want to own a gun, you must have mental problems.....so your guns will be confiscated without due process.....”

The old Soviet joke.
“Why does the Soviet Union put so many of its dissidents in mental institutions?”
“Because you’d have to be crazy to be a dissident in the Soviet Union.”


18 posted on 12/26/2018 3:11:34 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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That must be another of those invisible clauses in the Bill of Rights: "The right of [some] people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed [unless some unelected bureaucrat thinks you have mental issues in which case consider the previous clause annulled].
19 posted on 12/26/2018 3:14:25 PM PST by IronJack
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“....A simple accusation from a family member, friend, or associate will suffice to seize someone’s firearms....”

Believe that organized denunciations from gun grabbers will become common.


20 posted on 12/26/2018 3:25:42 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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