Posted on 12/21/2018 10:48:16 AM PST by Jim Robinson
LIVE on the Senate floor: Senators debate the short-term funding bill passed by the House last night. If the bill fails, it will trigger a government shutdown just before the Christmas holiday.
Mitch the Bitch knows come January, the 60 vote requirement will bury Rat bills coming in from the House.
Chuck U doesn’t have the 60 votes needed to end debate. Whether its its s boat anchor depends on which side you look at it.
Democrats are in no great hurry to get rid of the 60 vote threshold until it bites them in their keisters.
Jeff Flake and others soon to leave office will vote according to whomever secured them a job/position AFTER leaving Washington.
Actually that is a very good question... But I am sure there are hundreds by now sucking up tax dollars and his own legal defense fees. And if he is “immune” then how could they even be allowed to go past the first hearing?
Give me a little time and I will see what they are hitting him with as of now to date...
I believe that most “professional politicians” should consider themselves extremely lucky that the American people are so lazy, apathetic, careless, and stupid that they don’t pay real attention to what goes on in government...if the American people paid as close attention to that as they sports, the government could never get away with all their bullshit...
Does anyone know where the text of this bill is available? Yesterday, I had heard that the approval was for $5 billion, but it was spread over 5 years.
I looked on the congress.gov site, but didn’t seem to see where the bill text was.
Thank you anyone for your assistance in finding it.
Based upon my estimation, the only way to proceed to a final vote on the new House bill with border Wall funding will be to have Veep Pence break a tie.
Of the 12 absent Senators, 7 are GOP and 5 are RATS. If all vote along party lines, it will be 50-50.
Flake is the current Rhino voting against proceeding.
Praying hard that one way or the other, President Trump finds a way to pay for construction of some type of effective border barrier!!!
Also, hope the RATS finally are exposed and absorb the blame for the likely protracted shutdown.
The only way the Rats will vote for it is if they get something out of it. They’re not interested in funding GOP priorities.
Right now the leaderships are trying to cut a deal. But if they can’t, no border wall amigos.
“Democrats are in no great hurry to get rid of the 60 vote threshold until it bites them in their keisters.”
Wut? Why/how would the Democrats get rid of the 60 vote threshold when they’re the minority? Harry Reid already set the precedent of a simple majority, aka the Nuclear Option. That’s how the Constitution sets it.
Nope. Mitch McConnell and the Democrats OWN the shutdown.
Messaging, that’s what it comes down to. Donald Trump made his career in branding. Bend over Mitch and Chuck....
Senate Passes Stop-Gap Spending Bill to Avoid Shutdown, Wall Fight
Now that the House has passed its version, the two versions must be reconciled.
Resolving Differences (Transcript)
A bill must be agreed to by both chambers in the same form before it can be presented to the President. (Notably, the U.S. Constitution requires that any bill with revenue provisions must be a House bill. With this exception, it does not matter if a bill is passed first by the Senate or if it is passed first by the House.) Once one chamber passes a bill, it is engrossed – that is, prepared in official form – and then sent (or messaged) to the other chamber. In a majority of cases, the second chamber simply agrees to the exact text passed by the first chamber, in which case Congress has then completed its action on the bill.
In some cases, the second chamber instead decides to amend the first chamber’s bill. The second chamber is often proposing, in effect, an alternative version of the bill, which may differ from the bill in minor or substantial ways. In some circumstances, the alternative may even embody a proposal on a different topic. Once the second chamber agrees to this proposed alternative to the bill, it may send the proposal back to the first chamber for possible consideration and a vote. The receiving chamber may also respond with a counterproposal, and so on. This back-and-forth trading of proposals by the House and Senate is called amendment exchange, or sometimes simply ping-pong. For the bill to have a chance of becoming law, one chamber must eventually agree to the proposal that the other chamber sent it.
Sometimes, the resolution of differences between the House and Senate proposals may instead be accomplished through a conference committee. A conference committee is a temporary committee formed in relation to a specific bill; its task is to negotiate a proposal that can be agreed to by both chambers. Each conference committee is made up of members of the House and members of the Senate – called conferees – who are drawn primarily from the committees with jurisdiction over the bill. Through a combination of informal negotiations and formal meetings, the conferees try to hammer out a compromise, drawing on elements of the competing proposals that were adopted by each chamber. If a proposal can garner the support of a majority of the House conferees, and also separately, a majority of the Senate conferees, then the negotiated proposal is embodied in a conference report. This conference report can then be considered in one chamber, and, if agreed to, then considered in the other chamber. Regardless of which chamber goes first, the conference report is considered under sets of procedures used for other business. For example, note that reaching a vote on a conference report in the Senate may require a cloture process. For the bill to move to the next step in becoming law requires both chambers to agree to the conference report without changes.
There is an emoluments lawsuit, but it is being defended by the government, not Mr. Trump personally.
As said before, civil suits can continue as long as they do not interfere with the President’s job.
Incredibly slow vote, like they have to wake each senator up to get them to vote! They should have done a voice vote like they did earlier this week.
Spread over five years?! That should get immediate veto! This does highlight the problem that they might ultimately give him the money but attach strings to it—how used, no use of DoD, etc.
‘Only interesting possibility I see is taking it to conference, as they usually would.”
Can’t they do this by reconciliation and just have the President sign it? Like Obamacare?
He's Trump hater who was just voted back in office by the state of Montana which is slipping blue and will probably go against preserving our republic in 2020.
Only way it clears the Senate is if the leaderships can agree on a deal.
That’s why the vote is being kept open.
Prayers up!
But that could be the delay on McConnell holding the vote. Rats and RINOs (but I repeat myself) catching emergency flights back to DC.
Yes = 44, No = 46
“Yesterday, I had heard that the approval was for $5 billion, but it was spread over 5 years.”
It is probably given five years to spend. Appropriations are mostly limited in duration - if not spent they expire after some given time. Different types of money expire on different timeframes.
Five year money is pretty common for construction projects.
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