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To: TADSLOS

I want you to try to think in terms other than spending and over-reach.

What do you think goes along with being in those regions? We supply them. We utilize logistics. It’s all training for when we need to do it in an emergency.

What happens when we do pull all our forces from these places?

Do we keep the equipment sitting idle, or do we just let it rot and then don’t have it?

All our military transports, the training, other equipment, the methods and practices that need to be used over and over to remain sharp, evaporate.

When we no longer have troops on station fighting battles, we only have men who have never fought battles training others how to fight.

There is so much more to this than just pulling back our troops and patting ourselves on the back for making a really great move.

Some of this is absolutely destructive to our readiness.

What happens when we pull all our troops home?

Why we cut our troops strength.

This means all the men we had trained, are wasted.

The next conflict we have, we have far fewer experienced men training newer soldiers how to fight.

Our ability to be up and running become woefully inadequate.

At at time when China is reaching out, you want us to pull everyone home.

Then when we need bases over there, we have none. China was them and fully staffed.

You couldn’t be doing more to help the Left if you tried.


21 posted on 12/20/2018 6:31:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 frm 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: DoughtyOne

We’ve been there for 17 years and the Taliban control 1/2 of the Country. At some point you just gotta cut your losses and get the heck out.


22 posted on 12/20/2018 6:34:09 PM PST by marajade
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To: DoughtyOne

You are hand wringing and projecting what may or may not happen with readiness when we collapse the tent whenever we leave.

There’s a lot of other places around the globe where our troops are needed and actually wanted than in West Asia and Africa.

We have plenty of closer range threats in the Western hemisphere, starting with our own borders and including a growing presence of Chinese and Hezbollah in Central and South America.

Africa? Pfft... that place is a black hole. Blacker than Afghanistan. Not worth the blood and treasure to police it.

It’s past time for a reset and re-evaluation of what is really worth fighting for to secure our nation (or what’s left of it). Let the ungrateful ingrates of the EU/UN step up and play stupid games in Africa and the ME.


33 posted on 12/20/2018 6:53:56 PM PST by TADSLOS (My favorite essential oil is bacon grease.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We supply them. We utilize logistics. It’s all training for when we need to do it in an emergency.

Uh, actually that is what K Street is heavily involved in The so-called Logistics Civil Augmentation program has been an endless gusher of money for the connected in both Trashistan and Iraq, The Army under Billy Jeff just about eliminated much of the so-called Combat Service Support functions by uniformed personnel. The great idea of the beltway wizards of smart was to just contract most of that out. This is why butt boy Rubio and all the other GOPERs on the K Street payroll have been myrating today. DJT has broken a good many rice bowls and the shadow government is really irritated.

36 posted on 12/20/2018 7:05:15 PM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: DoughtyOne

So, you think that we should fight wars to keep equipment exercised and the troops trained? Excuse my ignorance but I think that is probably one of the most stupid things I have ever read. The military doesn’t have to fight endless wars to stay trained and ready. I seem to remember that Desert Storm went OK with mostly “untrained” troops and “idle” equipment. Where do you get troop strength cuts? In case you missed it, President Trump has increased the size of the military the past couple of years.


42 posted on 12/20/2018 8:02:32 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: DoughtyOne

Neo-Con double-talk! Lets keep our troops in harms way so they can be battle tested when the real war starts!


47 posted on 12/20/2018 9:08:30 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s not easy to understand this withdrawal for many.....we know it’s not all troops. We also know our southern border needs protection.....and I believe soon our northern border as well.

I say this because of the status of how nation leaders are in motion on the world stage overall. There is great uncertainty how everything is going to ‘settle’ down..if it does...or if things continue to escalate.

Additionally as a Christian we’ve known for sometime of the shifting of nations, though unsettled yet, still they are in a state of motion so one cannot help but wondering if God isn’t in many respects ‘protecting’ us or preparing us to be protected.

Scripture is not specific listing our country in any of the events foretold.....the best any have done is speculate. So I’m not certain just how to look at our troops being shifted about.......everythings changed or in process of change....from NKorea, to China ...Russia and the EU...and we continue to see these shifts.


50 posted on 12/20/2018 9:20:23 PM PST by caww
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To: DoughtyOne
I understand your concerns but there is one thing that you haven’t considered: multiple deployments and constant use of equipment means an Army that is worn down. “Combat experience” is an asset up to a point but in the larger picture, long term engagement is a cause of attrition, not strength.

The US military was never so well equipped and endowed and effective as it was in the 100 hour war of Desert Storm. That was an army that hadn’t fought for years. Likewise the military that stunned and destroyed the Taliban in late 2001 was a well rested military with little direct “experience.”

If it is time to go, then fine, leave the worn out vehicles and get on the bus. There will be new strykers and tanks waiting at Ft Hood or Carson or Knox or...

51 posted on 12/20/2018 9:29:58 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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