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Illinois AG Says Catholic Church Withheld Names of at Least 500 Accused Priests
WaPo ^ | 12-19-2018 | Laurie Goodstein and Monica Davey

Posted on 12/19/2018 3:17:22 PM PST by NRx

The Catholic Church in Illinois withheld the names of at least 500 priests accused of sexual abuse of minors, the state’s attorney general said Wednesday in a scathing report that accused the church of failing victims by neglecting to investigate their allegations.

The preliminary report by Attorney General Lisa Madigan concludes that the Catholic dioceses in Illinois are incapable of investigating themselves and “will not resolve the clergy sexual abuse crisis on their own.”

Cardinal Blase J. Cupich, the archbishop of Chicago, said in a statement, “I want to express again the profound regret of the whole church for our failures to address the scourge of clerical sexual abuse.

“It is the courage of victim-survivors that has shed purifying light on this dark chapter in church history.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: Admin Moderator

I screwed up the link name. It should be NY Times, not WaPo. Could someone fix that? Thanks...


2 posted on 12/19/2018 3:18:47 PM PST by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: NRx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blase_J._Cupich

Cupich is at least responsible for withholding the names since 2014.

And he’s been a member of the College of Cardinals since 2016.

He’s a hypocrite who hopes he can wash his hands of culpability.


3 posted on 12/19/2018 3:23:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: NRx

The corrupts state of Illinoise going after corruption in the Catholic Church.

I feel so much better now.


4 posted on 12/19/2018 3:24:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.“ --Aristotle.)
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To: NRx

Chicago is the epicenter of the lavender plague. It’s Bernardin’s old haunt. It absolutely can not fix this problem.


5 posted on 12/19/2018 3:36:03 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

They are shifting strategy - give up the dead abusers of children and underage men, while embracing (so to speak) sexually active adult homosexual clergy.


6 posted on 12/19/2018 3:43:56 PM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We are watching a slow motion train wreck. 500 unnamed plus roughly 200 already named in one state. Just rough numbers... There is about 50,000 (and dropping) Catholic priest in the US. Illinois is 4% of the US population. if this reflects the entire US, that means about 18,000 accused priest in the US. That is about 1 out of 3. Since this type of crime in generally under reported, it is just a guess what the real number is. How is the church going to function if it loses 1/3 to 1/2 of its priests? It is going to come down to this: do we want child molesters, or married and women priests. The wishful, “we’ll get more young priest” isn’t going to happen anytime soon. I personally would prefer to have a married or female priest than a unmarried molester.


7 posted on 12/19/2018 3:48:08 PM PST by lnbjohnson
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To: NRx

I have been hearing ads on the radio for “if you or someone you know were abused by clergy you may get lots of money for your testimony” or something like that.


8 posted on 12/19/2018 3:53:19 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: NRx

The AG ought to use RICO laws to bring down the horrible Lavender Mafia.


9 posted on 12/19/2018 4:17:19 PM PST by bkopto
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To: NRx

Why is this a caucus thread? I am Catholic but this is national news of interest to those who are not Catholic. It is not a discussion on theology or church teaching. Making it a caucus thread makes it appear as though we are trying shut out discussion on this very important issue.


10 posted on 12/19/2018 4:29:27 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: NRx

Is one of those names Pfleger?

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11 posted on 12/19/2018 4:31:34 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: lastchance

I would assume it’s caucus to avoid haring off into “Whore of Babylon” territory....


12 posted on 12/19/2018 4:35:27 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The corrupts state of Illinoise going after corruption in the Catholic Church.

That was my thought. Cynical me.

13 posted on 12/19/2018 4:35:45 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: lastchance; NRx

It’s meant to keep disruptors off the thread with their attacks.

You’re welcome to repost the same article as an open thread.


14 posted on 12/19/2018 4:37:05 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Eepsy

Not “The” Whore of Babylon”!!! She is on my mind control receptor.


15 posted on 12/19/2018 5:07:49 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lnbjohnson
Ordaining married men is a theological possibility.

Ordaining women is not a possibility. A woman cannot be ordained. (Not "should not" but "can not.") Priesthood is a male charism, and it was set up that way by Jesus Christ, not by any earthy power.

I wonder, though, whether we may see more non-priest parish administrators, both women and men. I have no idea how that would turn out. It does not, shall we say, fill me with hope and inspiration.

16 posted on 12/19/2018 5:45:10 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you: to act justly, to love tenderly, and to walk humbly with your God)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Each to his or her own God, but the argument that only men can be priest boils down to “all the apostles were were men, so only men can be priest”. By this logic only men born in the mid-east to Jewish parents can be priest.


17 posted on 12/19/2018 7:46:21 PM PST by lnbjohnson
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To: lnbjohnson
I think we can pretty much throw out the idea that the male priesthood is based on obsolete Middle-Eastern Jewish patriarchal norms. After all, as you and I think all of know, priests even in the 1st century were already being recruited from non-Jews (Gentiles) and non-Middle-Easterners (Europeans and Africans). And women contributed mightily to the "ministry" --- including evangelizing and church-planting --- so a role for women was there, right from the beginning.

But is there a distinction between "ministry" and priesthood? That's what you have to look at.

A woman can do anything and everything as far as "ministry" goes -- much like ministers in Protestant churches --- including being

But the one thing a woman can't do is sacramentally represent a bridegroom.

Every one of the popes agreed with this, and still agree, including the often-whackadoo Francis. You'd have to junk the entire Biblical example and rip out the entire mystical theology of the Church to change this. And if you did that, why would you bother having a church at all?

According to St. Paul, Christ is the Bridegroom in relation to the Church, and this is no small thing: Paul calls it the "mysterium magnum" (the Great Mystery.) And the priest is configured to Christ the Bridegroom. Christ never ordained a woman, not even the greatest human person who ever lived, the Blessed Virgin Mary.

It's not a question of job description, of "what she can do." It's a matter of what a man "is" and a woman "is." In this case, the priest is an embodied sign of Christ the Bridegroom, laying down His life for His Bride, the Church.

So the sticking point isn't "Middle-Eastern Jewish patriarchal culture." The sticking point is that a woman cannot embody a Bridegroom in the sacramental sense.

When the Church fully appreciates this, through the working of the Holy Spirit, the Church will have something to teach the World about the permanent significance of male and female.

18 posted on 12/20/2018 5:02:25 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Male and female He created them. In the image of God He created them.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thanks, that's an excellent summary!

If you can pardon Ann Barnhardt's colorful language here is a link to:

The One About WHY PRIESTS CAN ONLY EVER BE MEN

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19 posted on 12/20/2018 5:18:44 AM PST by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7

Mysterium Magnum!

Love that Ann Bernhardt, to the center of her nuptial soul.

20 posted on 12/20/2018 7:38:05 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Male and female He created them. In the image of God He created them.")
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