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Cafes, bars, police say Utah’s toughest-in-nation DUI law taking effect Dec. 30
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 2/12/18 | Lee Davidson

Posted on 12/15/2018 12:17:50 AM PST by 5150 FREEPER

Restaurants, bars and tourism officials say Utahns should not shy away from partying or eating out because of the state’s new toughest-in-the-nation drunken driving law when it takes effect in just over two weeks on Dec. 30. They stress two reasons: The Utah Highway Patrol and police say the new law won’t change how they enforce DUI laws, with their focus on impairment rather than blood-alcohol levels; and Utah has plenty of ride-sharing and public transportation options to get people home safely if they drink too much.

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KEYWORDS: dwi; nannystate; neoprohibition; revenuetaxes
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To: 5150 FREEPER

I remember when 0.10 was the limit, and you could buy 3.2% beer at 18 years of age.

The 0.10 limit has a much better correlation with the increased likelihood to be involved in an accident than lower limits do. But cities like their income any way they can take it.


21 posted on 12/15/2018 5:46:10 AM PST by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA!)
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To: ronnie raygun

Stop it! You are pointing out the hypocritical policies of the left.


22 posted on 12/15/2018 5:47:35 AM PST by redfreedom (.)
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To: 5150 FREEPER

When I lived in UAE I liked the 0.0 BAC law. Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Plus, drivers there are bad enough without being impaired by alcohol.


23 posted on 12/15/2018 5:52:20 AM PST by Cheesehead in Texas
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To: Chickensoup

I’ve noticed Uber & Lyft have reduced some of this in my area. Here in NJ they are actually trying to loosen DUI laws that are already very lax; they want driving to and from work to be exempt from license suspensions (though you’ll have the breathalyzer gadget in your car). DUI isn’t even a misdemeanor in NJ; it is a driving offense.


24 posted on 12/15/2018 5:56:12 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

LOL!! Dope will get you through times with no money better than money will get you through times with no dope.


25 posted on 12/15/2018 5:59:00 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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To: RandallFlagg

“Build a bar in your house.”

Some people started doing that when smoking was banned; saved a lot on their drinks as well.


26 posted on 12/15/2018 5:59:21 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 5150 FREEPER

Get caught DUI in MA, lose your guns!


27 posted on 12/15/2018 6:02:00 AM PST by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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To: polymuser

Drug test all elected officials.


28 posted on 12/15/2018 6:02:15 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: 5150 FREEPER

Idaho sign in 1984:

Eat drink and be merry because tomorrow you’ll be in Utah


29 posted on 12/15/2018 6:08:35 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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To: meyer
My friend’s dad got busted riding a motorcycle with a .32 BAC. I always found that incredible, but these folks put him to shame.
30 posted on 12/15/2018 6:11:47 AM PST by antidisestablishment (The blood of children is Folly's currency.)
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To: Hardastarboard

More words of wisdom from Gilbert Shelton. I acquired the FFFB Omnibus a while ago, but haven’t really had time to give it the perusal it deserves.


31 posted on 12/15/2018 6:17:38 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: a fool in paradise

Don’t drink and drive. No treason to. Have a designated driver or call Lyft or drink at home


32 posted on 12/15/2018 6:19:26 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: antidisestablishment

.32! It’s a wonder he could even get on the bike!

That’s downright S-faced!


33 posted on 12/15/2018 6:27:47 AM PST by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA!)
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To: polymuser
It’s lowering our sociality where public transportation is non-existent.

Well, since those are primarily Republican areas, it's probably just an opportunity to minimize what they see as sedition. :)

34 posted on 12/15/2018 6:30:01 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: 5150 FREEPER

Asking an impaired person to estimate whether they are too impaired to operate a two ton high speed vehicle sharing a roadway shared with people I love is not a viable proposition.

The correct alcohol level to drive is zero. Similar to carrying a weapon, if I’m packing, no alcohol at all, same with driving.


35 posted on 12/15/2018 6:40:28 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: 5150 FREEPER

Indonesia is not on the list. In Bali you can have open containers in a car (or on a scooter). There are businesses there that rent eskies (coolers) for slightly more than the cost of beer they also supply. As for accidents they are always the foreigners fault anyway.


36 posted on 12/15/2018 6:40:32 AM PST by steveo
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To: relictele
Anyone who believes DUI as currently constituted is about safety is a fool. Anyone who repeats it is a liar.

One of my children is a prosecutor with the district attorney's office. He started out doing DUI. He said that DUI roadblocks are the most inefficient use of LEO and that the primary purpose is to raise revenue through state and federal grants. He said that the typical roadblock requires 15 to 20 police officers over four to eight hours that might result in five arrests -- usually someone who went out to dinner, admitted to having two glasses of wine, and blew a .06 even though they show no visible signs of impairment. According to my son, the more effective approach is for those 15 to 20 LEO to patrol the roads looking for signs of impairment like repeatedly crossing the center line, driving to fast (or slow), or forgetting to turn on the headlights.

37 posted on 12/15/2018 6:45:58 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Nifster

Tokers are exempt cause it stays in their system too long.


38 posted on 12/15/2018 6:59:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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To: relictele

“Focus on impairment = using a subjective standard not an objective one.

It’s been the goal all along and not just in Utah. BAC levels were untethered from medical science long ago...the rest is merely state greed and control freakery.

Anyone who believes DUI as currently constituted is about safety is a fool. Anyone who repeats it is a liar.”

All states have the “impaired” catch all now. That’s because you can be using other substances as well as alcohol. An officer can always judge that you are too impaired to drive.
Even “too tired” can be a reason.

The only objective field tests that they have are for alcohol. Pretty much every other type of impairment determination is a judgement call in the field.


39 posted on 12/15/2018 7:06:14 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: kickstart

Get caught with a DUI in any state and you will loose your Utah multi state concealed carry permit.


40 posted on 12/15/2018 7:19:17 AM PST by Cold Heart
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