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change the verbiage in the Lord’s Prayer to clarify God does not, in fact, tempt people.

The pope has taken issue with the phrase, “Lead us not into temptation,” one stanza of the Lord’s Prayer found in Matthew 6:9-13.

According to the Daily Express, experts have been studying the biblical text for 16 years and recently concluded, “from a theological, pastoral and stylistic viewpoint,” the centuries-old wording used in English translations of the Bible is incorrect.

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Rather than translating the line as, “Lead us not into temptation,” the researchers found, the passage should read, “Abandon us not when in temptation.”

The shift in language comes one year after the pontiff argued the wording is “not a good translation.”

“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately,” Francis said of the line in question. “It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”

For years, Christians have struggled to understand the actual meaning behind those words in the Lord’s Prayer.

IS IT RIGHT TO CHANGE THE WORDING? The late theologian Charles Spurgeon explained during a sermon in 1863 that the word “temptation” in the New Testament passage actually holds two meanings, both the actual temptation toward sin and the facing of trials.

While Spurgeon made clear God does not tempt us, he does make the case God will often send us into trials and situations in which temptation toward sin is all but guaranteed.

“God tempts no man,” Spurgeon said. “For God to tempt in the sense of enticing to sin [is] inconsistent with his nature, and altogether contrary to his known character; but for God to lead us into those conflicts with evil which we call temptations, is not only possible but usual.”

1 posted on 12/11/2018 5:56:43 PM PST by HotKat
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But no word about abortion in Ireland?


37 posted on 12/11/2018 7:00:33 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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I take issue with the false pope.


39 posted on 12/11/2018 7:01:41 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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“It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”

Is he speaking for himself? How convenient.

40 posted on 12/11/2018 7:04:41 PM PST by onedoug
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In other words, lead us away from temptation. It’s not really that hard to understand.


43 posted on 12/11/2018 7:14:03 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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1 Corinthians 10:13 shows that Paul indicated that G-d won’t let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.


44 posted on 12/11/2018 7:19:58 PM PST by Amendment10
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Let no man, when he is tempted, say that he is tempted by God. For God is not a tempter of evils, and he tempteth no man. But every man is tempted by his own concupiscence, being drawn away and allured. Then when concupiscence hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin. But sin, when it is completed, begetteth death. Do not err, therefore, my dearest brethren.

James, Catholic chapter one, Protestant verses thirteen to sixteen
45 posted on 12/11/2018 7:24:34 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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He has a point.


47 posted on 12/11/2018 7:34:36 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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Another translation from the Aramaic:

Our Father who is in heaven,

Hallowed be your name.

Your kingdom come; your will be done

On earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our bread for tomorrow;

Refresh our souls with the water of life.

And forgive us every one our debts

As we also have forgiven our debtors.

Save us in temptation, deliver us from evil,

And increasingly make us perfect like yourself.


48 posted on 12/11/2018 7:46:52 PM PST by concentric circles
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Pope Francis Enacting Change to Lord’s Prayer: ‘Lead Us Not Into Temptation’

Deut 4:2
Deut 12:32
Prov 30:6
Rev 22:18
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
49 posted on 12/11/2018 7:49:30 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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I always thought it meant for God to keep us from temptation.


50 posted on 12/11/2018 8:03:21 PM PST by Terry Mross
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I will continue to say the Lord’s prayer in the same manner except that I will raise my voice slightly when I get to the phrase: And lead us not into temptation. I will also continue to withhold money from the Catholic Church until this Pope has left.


51 posted on 12/11/2018 8:06:02 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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No Marxist Pope is changing any prayer for me.


52 posted on 12/11/2018 8:13:18 PM PST by Dapper 26
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“God tempts no man,” Spurgeon said.

Yeah, tell that to Job.

58 posted on 12/11/2018 9:31:04 PM PST by GOPJ (Term limit DC bureaucracies - a permanent unelected 'ruling class' is a threat to our democracy.)
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Leftists have to ruin everything. It’s their nature. They are soulless, joyless people.


59 posted on 12/11/2018 9:37:23 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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Gosh - the Pope who neglects to preach Jesus, now thinks he knows better than Jesus...ironic that the Catholic Church wouldn’t exist if not for Jesus...the top dogs must hate having someone with authority higher than theirs....


67 posted on 12/12/2018 3:31:47 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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I'd rather eliminate the "who art" and just say "Our Father in Heaven..."

I say it that way. Am I going to Hell?

69 posted on 12/12/2018 4:19:53 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ( The following statement is false. The previous statement is true.)
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I guess when Cardinal Cupich said that the Pope had more important things to do than address the child molestation and sexual harassment crisis in the Church, he was thinking of things like this . . . .


74 posted on 12/12/2018 5:35:49 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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The Catholic church has manipulated the Gospel and the Word for ages.....nothing new or unexpected here


75 posted on 12/12/2018 5:38:14 AM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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1) That prayer came straight from the lips of Jesus Christ himself. The fact that Frankie thinks he can change it speaks to his bottomless supply of hubris.

2) We all KNOW what the prayer means. Absolutely NOBODY believes that God is the one leading them into temptation.

The Pope is an arrogant ass. And he thinks you’re stupid.


77 posted on 12/12/2018 6:10:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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