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Well duh! Simple solution. Make the existing gun laws 19% stronger. Geez how hard was that?
1 posted on 12/09/2018 10:56:01 AM PST by rktman
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What? The criminals aren’t obeying the laws?


32 posted on 12/09/2018 11:54:01 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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Since California insists on behaving like a separate country, unbeholden to the laws of the United States, perhaps it's time they were treated as such.
33 posted on 12/09/2018 11:56:56 AM PST by SpaceBar
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California Fail,,,Yes.

But what I see is being able
to enjoy the sport is becoming
more Difficult. That may be a
more efficient way to undermine
the 2nd Amendment.


34 posted on 12/09/2018 12:03:36 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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How does disarming the law abiding protect them from the armed unlawful?

It doesn't!

36 posted on 12/09/2018 12:11:57 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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This is what you get when Democrats run things. What’s even worse is that we have a President who is working to bring manufacturing back, and Americans chose this over him in 2018.


37 posted on 12/09/2018 12:12:00 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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Since the majority of gun crimes involved a handgun, the Left bans the weapon that is least used......Who are these people here in Sacramento? Morons?


38 posted on 12/09/2018 12:19:20 PM PST by realcleanguy
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40 posted on 12/09/2018 12:43:58 PM PST by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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Can Amazon sell “Yellow Vests” in Kalifornia?


41 posted on 12/09/2018 12:47:18 PM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/wife_of_a_liberal_senator_gets_mugged_by_reality.html


43 posted on 12/09/2018 1:15:32 PM PST by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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I imagine Californians will never allow a popular dilution to be overcome by reality. My letter below has not had much interest here in Oregon.

From: Retain Mike Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 6:26 PM To: WSJ Letters (wsj.ltrs@wsj.com) Subject: Shootings as Public Health Crises

First, you don’t “got to do something”, but should consider shootings as public health crises.

President Obama ordered a gun violence study by Centers for Disease Control (CDC). The study concluded self-defense can be an important crime deterrent and there was no evidence gun restrictions reduced gun violence. Skeptics can pay $38 for their own copy. However, the CDC study Bill Clinton ordered in 2003 presented the same conclusions, and that one is free on line.

The Clinton Administration also commissioned in 2005 a National Science Foundation (NSF) study finding no positive correlation between gun control laws and other measures after consulting 400 sources and doing its own research. The only dissent detailed in Appendix A was John Lott’s conclusion concealed carry laws do drive down murder rates.

The dissent discussed a twenty-year study by John Lott and William Landes from the University of Chicago Law School. That and subsequent Lott studies the NSF reviewed correlated passage of concealed carry laws with large decreases in multiple victim shootings, and reduced harm when shootings did occur.

Since guns have the volition of a cabbage, and laws controlling violence by controlling guns have proved futile, the standard emotional, asymmetrical reactions only provide useful political theater and failed solutions. Consider hardening sites by limiting access and allowing concealed carry. Eliminate gun free zones, because people there enjoy the same security as chickens in a Foster Farms processing plant. Stop bureaucrats and politicians from ignoring repeated demonstrations of severe psychopathic behavior.

Obama Study Concluded Firearms Used for Self-Defense ‘Important Crime Deterrent’ https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/obama-study-concluded-firearms-used-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

Center for Disease Control First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm

National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine: Firearms and Violence, A Critical Review http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309091241

Study by John Lott and William Landes from the University of Chicago Law School http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=272929

44 posted on 12/09/2018 1:38:30 PM PST by Retain Mike
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The Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation found that from 2014 to 2016 gun homicides increased 18 percent.”

Actually, it's probably worse than 18 percent. Last year, I was talking to a retired LEO who explained to me that some metro areas (Cali, one strongly suspects) are experts at under-reporting murders and other serious violent crimes.

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46 posted on 12/09/2018 1:45:43 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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Gov Jerry Brown released over 40,000 criminals from jail. The democrats have allowed all kinds of crime to go unpunished.


47 posted on 12/09/2018 1:45:53 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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Obviously the answer is to ban cars in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. What does that have to do with homicides by guns? Not a thing but it will shut the leftists up about more gun laws.


48 posted on 12/09/2018 2:10:37 PM PST by Boomer (To Thine Own Self Be True)
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Liberals never let a little thing like complete and utter failure make them rethink their position.


50 posted on 12/09/2018 2:44:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the DemocRats are all cats.)
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Demonrats are a generally disgusting species...


51 posted on 12/09/2018 2:54:34 PM PST by northislander
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Lessee. Bring in third world savages by the millions all the while making it increasingly difficult for law abiding Californians to own/acquire/CCW firearms. And anybody is surprised that gun crime goes up? Hmm. Who could have imagined it? /s


52 posted on 12/09/2018 2:56:36 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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The Gun Grabbers will just claim this is “proof” that their gun grabbing didn’t go “far enough”. Its the same with socialists who implement socialism and then when the inevitable disaster starts to unfold, claim its proof that they didn’t go far enough.

These religious Zealots are incapable of self examination and are completely immune to all facts and reason.


53 posted on 12/09/2018 2:57:32 PM PST by FLT-bird
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It is NOT a “fail” because it was NEVER INTENDED to reduce crime. It is a success because it reduces gun ownership.

No gun control law is ever intended to reduce crime or enhance public safety. The sole purpose of gun control is to incrementally disarm the American populace moving to the final goal of complete prohibition of citizen gun ownership so as to make tyranny safe for the tyrants.


54 posted on 12/09/2018 3:12:54 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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