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To: Uncle Miltie
Little folk in the EU cannot vote the elite out of office, even though all they ever voted in was economic cooperation. Some regions have voted for independence....it's ignored. If they elect someone who promises to get out from under in the EU (ex Greece), the new leaders are bought off. It seems the only country not bought off (yet!) is Hungary. Eastern Europe seems to have bought into cooperation with EU/NATO as their way to salvation. Are they insane? How did that work for Khadafi and Libya?

Here, the treatment of President Trump and voters with conservative, Constitutional values demonstrates that we no longer elect leaders and have control over government decisions. Any country that wants to get out from under the economic clutches of National Banks and of the system in place for selling oil is declared evil and gotten out of office, ruthlessly if necessary. And still, the puppet masters have us convinced that "Russia, Russia, Russia" is the problem.

Think about it folks. In the US and Europe, we're no longer free people who have a voice in our futures. If we try to, payback is ruthless. It's been a pretty good run of about 500 years for our civilization and its accomplishments. I don't see how this ends well. We either go along and become more impoverished and less free or we do it the European way, which could end civilization as we know it. (sigh)

6 posted on 12/09/2018 4:58:08 AM PST by grania ("You don't give power to an angry left wing mob")
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To: grania

...which could end civilization as we know it.
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Or, it could change the disastrous track we’re on. Civilization is not dependent on oppression.

I cannot recall a real revolution that didn’t improve things for the average punter, once the smoke had cleared and the guillotines were scrubbed down and put in storage until the next time.

Revolutions are not meant to promote comfort in the status quo. Our self-anointed global elites need cleansed. Globally.


8 posted on 12/09/2018 5:24:07 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: grania

We do it by not attacking the governing powers directly but by pressuring the hidden guys. We protest the banks, the bankers in their gated communities, their houses and the intermediate governmental agencies that are doing the real dirty work. The Governmental Executive Service that supposedly vets the deepstaters for directorship type positions in the Fed Gov is one such agency that needs exposure to the light of day......we can tea party protest them as well. Lets send the director of that group a yellow vest....let him or her know we are watching them. I don’t think the vast majority of the congress is corrupt but I think they feel as though they are besieged by an entrenched bureaucracy and intel apparatus that has become a fourth branch of government.

Perhaps the American people need to relieve the congress, the senate, the president and the courts of the influence of such people by spotlighting the crazy little intermediate dictators of the deep bureaucratic state. O’keefe made a good start by video recording one such creep who suddenly isn’t working in his position anymore(probably reassigned anyway ‘till the heat clears).

The best way to control an octopus one doesn’t want to totally destroy is to cut off a few of its appendages...that way it can be more easily controlled by the true branches of government. An octopi may grow back some appendages but these will then be more easily controlled if the Octopi of government is once again carefully managed!


16 posted on 12/09/2018 7:06:04 AM PST by mdmathis6
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