Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

New Jersey Has No Idea How to Enforce Its 10-Round Magazine Limit Law
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12/08/18 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 12/08/2018 3:56:15 PM PST by Simon Green

Earlier this week, a Third Circuit three-judge panel ruled that New Jersey’s new law prohibiting possession of magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds is constitutional. That means New Jersey gun owners who own standard capacity magazines have until Monday to destroy them, alter them, or turn them in.

The question then becomes…what happens after Monday? New Jersey has upwards of a million gun owners. That means there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of magazines in the state that will be illegal after the deadline. We’re all the way down here in Texas, but if there were lines of gun owners wanting to turn in their prohibited magazines forming around every Garden State police station, that would probably be all over the news right now.

The Washington Free Beacon’s Steven Gutowski tried to get some answers as to how the hoplophobic powers that be in New Jersey plan to enforce their new law. Let’s just say they weren’t particularly forthcoming.

Neither the state police nor the attorney general’s office elaborated on how they plan to enforce the law. Nor did they provide any guidance for those currently in possession of the magazines. . . .

State police told the Washington Free Beacon the effort to enforce the law will be a statewide endeavor directed by the attorney general’s office. They would not comment other than to say they will enforce New Jersey’s laws.

“We will enforce the law of the state,” Lieutenant Theodore Schafer of the New Jersey State Police said. “That’s our plan.”

Schafer would not give any details on the agency’s plan to enforce the law and referred the Free Beacon to the attorney general’s office for further questions.

Surely the AG’s office has some guidance, since Attorney General Gurbir Grewal has been such a fan and outspoken supporter of the new magazine capacity limit law.

Leland Moore, a public information officer for the New Jersey Office of the Attorney General, refused to answer any questions on how the state planned to deal with gun owners who did not comply with the new law. He would not say if the attorney general has any guidance at all for those who currently own the magazines being targeted, which gun-rights activists have estimated to be up to a million New Jersey residents, or provide any insight about how the state will deal with those who don’t turn in, modify, or destroy their magazines.

“We have no comment,” Moore said to multiple inquiries.

It’s almost as if they don’t really have a plan at all for how to enforce their shiny new confiscation law. That’s because, in all likelihood, they don’t. Just look at New York’s SAFE Act registration requirement as an example of how an unenforceable gun control law works in practice.

Under the SAFE Act, New Yorkers were required to register their “assault weapons” by a date certain. But the mandate was met by civil disobedience and wide spread non-compliance from the state’s gun owners. Only a fraction of the estimated number of “assault rifles” in the state were ever registered.

The response by Governor Soprano and his minions was…silence. They’ve chosen to ignore it, having no desire to stir up a hornet’s nest by proactively enforcing the law. If someone is discovered with an un-registered firearm as part of a traffic stop, domestic disturbance call, burglary…whatever…then they’ll prosecute. Otherwise, the unspoken approach seems to be, in effect, don’t ask, don’t tell. And the Governor will continue to trumpet the law’s “success” in making the Empire State safer. Allegedly.

Look for the same approach in New Jersey. Neither Governor Phil Murphy or AG Grewal has any interest in going door-to-door looking for 15-round magazines. And when the State Police’s Lt. Schafer says, “We will enforce the law of the state,” that means they’ll charge you if they happen find +10-round magazines in your car during a traffic stop. Or if someone breaks into your home and they happen to see an offending magazine when they investigate.

So look for New Jersey’s gun owners to respond to their state’s latest Second Amendment infringement much as New Yorkers did. By flipping an invisible bird at the Governor and legislature and claiming all of their standard capacity magazines had been lost in an unfortunate series of tragic boating accidents.

In the mean time, the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, the plaintiffs in the lawsuit, have pledged to appeal the decision. And New Jersey’s gun owners will bide their time, hoping for a favorable ruling.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; njhellhole
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

1 posted on 12/08/2018 3:56:15 PM PST by Simon Green
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

How Much Blood Would Leftists Be Willing To Shed To Disarm Patriotic Americans?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3711081/posts

Is the Left willing to DIE to take away our guns?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3711501/posts

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2312894/posts


2 posted on 12/08/2018 4:03:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green
Almost every sheriff in Colorado has said they're not going to enforce the 15 round ban here. It's just not enforceable, without using up a whole bunch of resources.

But I'm sure that doesn't matter in Jersey.

3 posted on 12/08/2018 4:05:30 PM PST by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green
We will enforce the law of the state,” Lieutenant Theodore Schafer of the New Jersey State Police said.

followed by a sieg heil I'm sure.
4 posted on 12/08/2018 4:07:00 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

5 posted on 12/08/2018 4:07:24 PM PST by real saxophonist (One side has guns and training. Other side's primary concern is 'gender identity'. Who's gonna win?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

Send all the magazines to the Sheriff of Polk County Arkansas for redistribution to the grateful law abiding citizens of the county.


6 posted on 12/08/2018 4:07:27 PM PST by mosaicwolf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

Anyone who has a gun during a cop encounter will have it checked. If > 10 rounds, there will be a charge.


7 posted on 12/08/2018 4:09:47 PM PST by fruser1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fruser1

Yes one by one doesn’t matter if they start right away.

The laws has been passed that is what matter.

Might not be today maybe tomorrow.

All it takes is one phone call make the wife/girl friend mad she drops the dime ect ect.


8 posted on 12/08/2018 4:16:14 PM PST by riverrunner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

I wonder how many double stack 9’s are in NJ?

100.000 maybe?


9 posted on 12/08/2018 4:17:15 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mrmeyer

Lol. He doesn’t have enough Troopers for that and they aren’t going to follow those orders.


10 posted on 12/08/2018 4:20:08 PM PST by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: real saxophonist

They won’t enforce it... they will just up it to a felony and then use it to make gun owners not allowed to own guns any more.

They want all the guns... not just your magazine.


11 posted on 12/08/2018 4:21:20 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: fruser1

You are correct. Use a plus 10 in defending a home invasion and you will be in the backseat of thsame car taking the perp to the station. Also exoect statie undercovers at firing ranges. That takes minimum manpower. The state will find a way.


12 posted on 12/08/2018 4:28:16 PM PST by xkaydet65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: mrmeyer

followed by a sieg heil I’m sure.


Have you ever seen the NJ state Trooper uniform?


13 posted on 12/08/2018 4:36:33 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: riverrunner

NJ will soon publish a snitch hotline number “and you won’t even have to give your name!”.

Then the same will happen as did in the 1970’s; the po-po will get a blizzard of tips from snitches with a grudge and the whole system will collapse.

But does NJ have a Red Flag law? If so, that is a danger for all gun owners; your little cupcake gets miffed at you for any reason and it’s “he’s acting strangely, says he won’t give up his magazines, and he threatened me, please help!!”

Warrant and jackboots will soon appear at your door.


14 posted on 12/08/2018 4:37:07 PM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged


15 posted on 12/08/2018 4:40:09 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

Someone should manufacture 10 round magazines that are the same size and look of the 15 and 20 round magazines ... just to drive the pukes crazy.


16 posted on 12/08/2018 4:41:01 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Trump.Deplorable

yes I’m aware of the history of the New Jersey State Police uniform Hugo boss and the third Reich


17 posted on 12/08/2018 4:41:18 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

California passes a law for all assault weapons to be registered. Funny thing is, they were registered when they were bought and the background check was done. So............What California wanted was a list they could use to come and confiscate them when they deemed it necessary to take them. I have read they think that less than 10% re-registered them, and they have no plan what to do about the other 90%


18 posted on 12/08/2018 4:41:29 PM PST by realcleanguy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

Get out of that state - New Jersey.

Bring your magazines with you but leave your damn New Jersey values behind.


19 posted on 12/08/2018 4:45:23 PM PST by jeffersondem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Simon Green

Enforce such a silly and unconstitutional rule? They’re not so stupid to even try.


20 posted on 12/08/2018 4:46:28 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson