“There is never going to be another war like WWII...Ukraine is of no importance to the US...NATO should have been dissolved long ago.” [Pining_4_TX, post 45]
Mindless repetition of mistaken notions doesn’t make them any less erroneous.
Are West Euro nations less than perfect? Of course. They are what we have to work with, and it’s a fool’s errand to cut them loose. Countries in Eastern Europe - former Warsaw Pact countries, former Soviet “Republics” - can be useful additions: they are the unwilling owners of more-recent memories of being invaded, occupied, and oppressed by the Russians. Tends to focus attention on realistic strategies for surviving and countering the threat.
Isolationists haven’t got a lot of room to talk. Not after the marginal role played by the United States in suppressing the Barbary Coast pirates (where the Royal Navy did most of the work), stepping on the Filipinos for years after the Spanish-American War, refusing to support the League of Nations, ignoring the rise of Nazi Germany, disdaining modern Israel, leaving Cuban anti-communist expats in the lurch, and abandoning South Vietnam.
Who knows? Allies and other nations might juts decide that the United States isn’t worth the trouble, when the next crisis comes along: we’re wimpish, moralizing navel gazers with short attention spans - not sufficiently adult to stick with any policy for very long.
Our so-called allies are only allies as long as they need us. Time for the US to take care of our real national security interests and stop sending our people to fight other nations’ wars.