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To: schurmann; MeganC

There is never going to be another war like WWII. This is the age of nukes and drones, not land tank battles. Proxy wars are the order of the day and they resolve nothing but at great cost to the small nations where they are fought. The Ukraine is of no importance to the US.

Europe is committing suicide by 3rd world immigration and Islam. Russia is the least of their problems. NATO should have been dissolved long ago.


45 posted on 12/06/2018 4:54:37 PM PST by Pining_4_TX ("Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods." ~ H.L. Mencken)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“The Ukraine is of no importance to the US.”

Free people are of utmost importance to the US. We do not sit on our hands as free people are attacked and enslaved by barbarians like the Russians and their gangster-state oligarchy.


51 posted on 12/07/2018 8:18:01 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“There is never going to be another war like WWII...Ukraine is of no importance to the US...NATO should have been dissolved long ago.” [Pining_4_TX, post 45]

Mindless repetition of mistaken notions doesn’t make them any less erroneous.

Are West Euro nations less than perfect? Of course. They are what we have to work with, and it’s a fool’s errand to cut them loose. Countries in Eastern Europe - former Warsaw Pact countries, former Soviet “Republics” - can be useful additions: they are the unwilling owners of more-recent memories of being invaded, occupied, and oppressed by the Russians. Tends to focus attention on realistic strategies for surviving and countering the threat.

Isolationists haven’t got a lot of room to talk. Not after the marginal role played by the United States in suppressing the Barbary Coast pirates (where the Royal Navy did most of the work), stepping on the Filipinos for years after the Spanish-American War, refusing to support the League of Nations, ignoring the rise of Nazi Germany, disdaining modern Israel, leaving Cuban anti-communist expats in the lurch, and abandoning South Vietnam.

Who knows? Allies and other nations might juts decide that the United States isn’t worth the trouble, when the next crisis comes along: we’re wimpish, moralizing navel gazers with short attention spans - not sufficiently adult to stick with any policy for very long.


60 posted on 12/10/2018 3:47:07 AM PST by schurmann
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