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Camille Paglia: ‘Hillary wants Trump to win again’ [2020, Trump and Jordan Peterson]
Spectator USA ^ | 4 December 2018 | Camille Paglia

Posted on 12/04/2018 11:57:26 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

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Camille's in love --- with Jordan Peterson!

Class, discuss.

1 posted on 12/04/2018 11:57:26 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o; plain talk

plain talk was six minutes quicker


2 posted on 12/04/2018 12:00:58 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Booker has the gravitas of a cork.

still laughing!

she’s the best EV-AH!


3 posted on 12/04/2018 12:07:09 PM PST by avital2
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Rather see Trump win again then allow some other woman to de-throne her as Queen of the Democrat Party?

I can see that.

Also if Trump becomes a popular two-term POTUS her loss does not look so bad in hindsight.


4 posted on 12/04/2018 12:10:11 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Out with the false idols and in with the true!

Down with your idols, Camille. It is written, "You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve." His Advent is at hand.

5 posted on 12/04/2018 12:14:15 PM PST by Tax-chick (Ask me about my Marine!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

She has always been an interesting one. She understands that civilization needs males and maleness, unlike the vast majority of radical feminists. Her thinking is much smarter than theirs. Her discussion with JBP is very interesting, very high level, but fun to watch nonetheless.

Modern Times: Camille Paglia & Jordan B Peterson
https://youtu.be/v-hIVnmUdXM


6 posted on 12/04/2018 12:16:19 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

She accurately nails the nature of the higher educational establishment - it is Nihilistic, my contention for the last decade see “Chaos and Mayhem.”

And calls out the Fraudulent Foucault.


7 posted on 12/04/2018 12:17:45 PM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I had high hopes for Kamala Harris ...

Why? What has Kamala Harris accomplished thus far that would cause Ms. Paglia to believe her last few years of life would be enriched (literally or figuratively) by a Kamala Harris Presidency?

8 posted on 12/04/2018 12:18:54 PM PST by Tax-chick (Ask me about my Marine!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I still find Camille unstable, but damn... she can write.


9 posted on 12/04/2018 12:19:31 PM PST by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Last summer I attended a Peterson lecture in Seattle in which he discussed how we develop our ideas of truth and beauty, and how we create stories to embody these ideals, and how this all relates to religion. When I mentioned this to my son and his girlfriend, she looked at me like I’d said I’d gone to a Hitler rally.


10 posted on 12/04/2018 12:23:25 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The deep state is no myth but a sodden, intertwined mass of bloated, self-replicating bureaucracy that constitutes the real power in Washington and that stubbornly outlasts every administration.

Besides the Federal agencies , to me that "stubbornly outlasting" comment applies also to the senate and congress where some politicians are there for life, as are the people in the other federal agencies. - Tom

11 posted on 12/04/2018 12:23:56 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This kind of notion, reflected in the title, is hardly new. If your football team was doing well one season you would prefer that the team that wins the super bowl was the one team that sort of dashed their hopes. That as opposed to the team that dashed your team’s hopes getting humiliated in the final showdown.

What are so many Leftwits saying about Clinton: thatshe was a poor candidate. Well, arguably that’s just the reimagining their drooling fanboy and fangirl worship of Hillary during the erection, er, election. That’s them now saying oh, we weren’t wrong, we were just supporting the flawed candidate the party gave us.

Ah, the ever convenient me,pry of Leftists....

But in light of that new post election revised mythos about Clinton if Trump wins again it’s not really Hillary’s fault for the first time, is it?

Unless he beats her again in which case....

We see this Trump as the manipulator, Trump as the Jar Jar Binks to be revealed as the ultimate big bad Sith, is already a growing part of the Leftist mythos about him. From Russian collusion to the new new thing where Russians are making hyper life like fake videos (that wasn’t me raping that ten year old girl, it was a Russian hit piece in video ... some Democrat in two year’s time) Trump is already someone the Left loves to pat themselves on the back that THEY arent being fooled (unlike all us rubes on the Right).

And that from folks that once early ‘17 inspired me to write the DC Monks ...

Shhhh ... listen, the DNC flagellant monks approach issuing their mournful lament...

“Mena, Rose Law, Pay for Play! *thwack!* We’d still vote for Hillary....
Mena, Rose Law, Pay for Play! *thwack!* We’d still vote for Hillary....
Mena, Rose Law, Pay for Play! *thwack!* We’d still vote for Hillary....”


12 posted on 12/04/2018 12:24:28 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Love Camille! I would have paid real cash to see Christopher Hitchens, Camille and Mark Steyn chat. Still would for Camille and Mark.


13 posted on 12/04/2018 12:28:59 PM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: avital2

Yes that was AWESOME .

But it is extremely mystifying that with her towering intellect she continues to adhere to the intellectually bankrupt Democrat lie.


14 posted on 12/04/2018 12:37:37 PM PST by A strike (Import Third World become Third World)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Who’s going to dethrone Hitlery? Alexandria occasionally-Coherent?

CC


15 posted on 12/04/2018 12:42:24 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BFL


16 posted on 12/04/2018 12:42:49 PM PST by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

the deep state is probably equally populated by Republicans....

She’s right.

She’s an atheist but sees that secular humanism has destroyed the country.

She’s actually pretty smart, except for not realizing there’s a God.


17 posted on 12/04/2018 12:43:27 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: A strike

It’s actually a little vexing too.

Her wisdom and wit and knowledge is wasted in a party where no one will listen to what she says.

I don’t believe she really believes she’s an atheist.

Great article.

Confusing and contrasting and conflicted person.


18 posted on 12/04/2018 12:45:48 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Enjoyed this.


19 posted on 12/04/2018 12:51:34 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: ponygirl

I still find Camille unstable, but damn... she can write.
+++++
Pretty much my take as well. She is brilliant, superbly educated, well spoken in the extreme, and mostly wrong.

But she is fun and occasionally on our side. But just occasionally.


20 posted on 12/04/2018 12:57:23 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. A)
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