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People Are Not Happy With How the AP Initially Defined George H. W.'s Legacy
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2018 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 12/01/2018 1:25:48 PM PST by Kaslin

Former President George H. W. Bush passed away Friday night at the age of 94 in his home in Houston. Family, friends, old White House employees, lawmakers, and pundits are sharing their condolences. But, some outlets may be missing the mark.

Here's the blurb the Associated Press chose to define Bush's career:

George H.W. Bush, a patrician New Englander whose presidency soared with the coalition victory over Iraq in Kuwait, but then plummeted in the throes of a weak economy that led voters to turn him out of office after a single term, has died. He was 94. https://t.co/LaSU5ho2os pic.twitter.com/ld9KqRHdaU— The Associated Press (@AP) December 1, 2018

Some groups and individuals were outraged by how the AP defined Bush's legacy and why they decided to use words like "weak" and "plummeted."

What an unacceptable headline after America has lost one of our finest.— Osage County GOP (@OsageCountyGOP) December 1, 2018

Seriously, @AP?!? This is disrespectful and completely uncalled for. This is why the media is so despised these days. 41 was a hero and a great man.— Traci Tyson (@tracityson) December 1, 2018

Do better @AP this is beneath you. I think we could all take a step back and thank the man for his service to the nation, and give his family our condolences for their immense loss. Such a cursory take on a life that was so much more than his years in office. #GeorgeHWBush— Rob Haley (@robhaley1) December 1, 2018

It's rarely a good sign when the number of comments exceeds the number of retweets.

Critics would have much preferred if the AP used the second paragraph in their obituary for President Bush as the featured tweet, where the editors write how Bush was a "World War II hero, who also presided during the collapse of the Soviet Union and the final months of the Cold War." 

The AP Twitter account did share more sentimental messages in follow up tweets, quoting leaders who recognize and appreciate Bush's years of service.

Others prefer the description from former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer:

RIP President Bush. You fought for your country in WW II and your presidency was marked by dignity, courtesy and grace. You will be missed.— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) December 1, 2018

Or the message from Bush 41's office:

Former President George H. W. Bush passed away Friday night at the age of 94 in his home in Houston. Family, friends, old White House employees, lawmakers, and pundits are sharing their condolences. But, some outlets may be missing the mark.

Here's the blurb the Associated Press chose to define Bush's career:

George H.W. Bush, a patrician New Englander whose presidency soared with the coalition victory over Iraq in Kuwait, but then plummeted in the throes of a weak economy that led voters to turn him out of office after a single term, has died. He was 94. https://t.co/LaSU5ho2os pic.twitter.com/ld9KqRHdaU— The Associated Press (@AP) December 1, 2018

Some groups and individuals were outraged by how the AP defined Bush's legacy and why they decided to use words like "weak" and "plummeted."

What an unacceptable headline after America has lost one of our finest.— Osage County GOP (@OsageCountyGOP) December 1, 2018

Seriously, @AP?!? This is disrespectful and completely uncalled for. This is why the media is so despised these days. 41 was a hero and a great man.— Traci Tyson (@tracityson) December 1, 2018

Do better @AP this is beneath you. I think we could all take a step back and thank the man for his service to the nation, and give his family our condolences for their immense loss. Such a cursory take on a life that was so much more than his years in office. #GeorgeHWBush— Rob Haley (@robhaley1) December 1, 2018

It's rarely a good sign when the number of comments exceeds the number of retweets.

Critics would have much preferred if the AP used the second paragraph in their obituary for President Bush as the featured tweet, where the editors write how Bush was a "World War II hero, who also presided during the collapse of the Soviet Union and the final months of the Cold War." 

The AP Twitter account did share more sentimental messages in follow up tweets, quoting leaders who recognize and appreciate Bush's years of service.

Others prefer the description from former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer:

RIP President Bush. You fought for your country in WW II and your presidency was marked by dignity, courtesy and grace. You will be missed.— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) December 1, 2018

Or the message from Bush 41's office:


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To: Verginius Rufus

Actually several historians now believe Bush would still have lost in ‘92 even without Perot.

It’s hard to remove an incumbent president. Bush 41 simply screwed up.


21 posted on 12/01/2018 2:10:16 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.r)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“Great.” Uh-huh.

https://whowhatwhy.org/2007/01/07/cia-bush-senior-oil-venture/

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB29/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/27/russian-born-oilman-real-international-man-mystery-vivid-presence-jfk-files/807303001/

https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKdevineTJ.htm

http://jfkmurdersolved.com/bush3.htm

http://aarclibrary.org/notices/Affidavit_of_George_William_Bush_880921.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/11/us/63-fbi-memo-ties-bush-to-intelligence-agency.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/02/17/133840050/german-foreign-minister-cia-knew-curveballs-wmd-intel-was-questionable

https://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/28/how-bush-sr-sold-the-gulf-war/

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/bush-grandpa-traded-with-enemy-for-3-years-before-assets-seized/article/424715

https://gumshoenews.com/2015/02/06/paedophiles-in-power-a-conspiracy-of-silence-and-cover-up-in-us/

“I worked for Zapata Offshore for a couple of years in Houston, back in the late 1970’s. I was a lowly project accountant in my early to mid 20’s. The company had shore bases all over the world for their drilling operations. Alaska, Singapore, Venezuela, Rotterdam, Aberdeen, Abu Dhabi, and Africa at the time, if I remember correctly. The shore bases sent their reports and info into me on the accounting end. I also remember the uppity ups talking about “Tom Devine” in terms of some close to final authority, or someone to be concerned about. The name jumped off the page when I read your post. I thought he was a senior executive of the corporation, board of directors...something. I knew he wasn’t the CEO or Chairman of the board. That was someone else, whose name I don’t even remember. He wasn’t talked about as much as Devine. Devine’s name stands out as some mysterious yet powerful character the execs and officers I interacted with were “concerned with” to say the least. I’ve been searching for some official connection between Devine and Zapata, and I’m coming up with ZERO. No, Tom Devine, Thomas Devine, Thomas J. Devine connections to Zapata Corp., Zapata Offshore, Zapata Offshore Driling Co. and the other Zapata entities I remember.

If anyone can find anything official, I’d find that real interesting. Talk about blast from your past. The official company story was that George H. W. Bush had started the company in 1954 and named the company after the popular film “Viva Zapata” starring Marlon Brando and Jean Peters. It was popular back then to name your company with an A or a Z so you could be at the beginning or the end of the yellow page listings for your company type. The hell I know, but a couple of ships tied to the Bay of Pigs were named “Barbara” as in Barbara Bush, and “Houston” as in the city Bush was living in. Throw “Operation Zapata” on top and you have a peek into the megalomaniacal mind of George H. W. Bush.”

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t3759.html

(apologies...I do not have time to format for HTML)


22 posted on 12/01/2018 2:16:02 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Nateman

You know, we had just fought a massive war in the middle east which dismantled the fourth largest military in the world.

I didn’t know too many people who were enough of a shithead to be all upset about taxes given the circumstance. But then we were over there for the proceedings.

The bullcrap about suborning our sovereignty to the UN, and his removal of the border enforcement measures Reagan put in place during h7s second term pissed a lot of folks I knew off.

The “no new taxes” explanation for his loss comes from the same people and is promoted for the same reason as the insistence that middle eastern wars are one hundred percent about oil and that religion has nothing to do with them.


23 posted on 12/01/2018 2:23:35 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Drew68

so where does one get news for the next week


24 posted on 12/01/2018 2:30:05 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Catmom

I am disgusted with the videos of GHWB caressing the reprobate from Arkansas, William Jefferson Blythe.(Clinton)
It looks like GHWB wished Blythe was his son. When a man associates with a reprobate, one must assume that the man is one too. Any contact with Blythe, regardless of being a former POTUS, is suspect. The Clintons and the Bushes were friends.
That says it all, for me.


25 posted on 12/01/2018 2:33:14 PM PST by BatGuano
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To: MrEdd

The war was another reason to be mad at GHWB. He did not finish the job. He knocked them out of Kuwait then stopped. It was his son who sort of ended it


26 posted on 12/01/2018 2:34:40 PM PST by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong)
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To: Kaslin

“George H.W. Bush, a patrician New Englander whose presidency soared with the coalition victory over Iraq in Kuwait, but then plummeted in the throes of a weak economy that led voters to turn him out of office after a single term...”

I don’t think that’s particularly unfair or wrong.

It’s true that his presidency was so popular after the Kuwait war that mainstream democrats didn’t want to run against him.

So that’s why the unknown from Arkansas ran and was able to get the nomination.

The establishment Dems were chicken because of husband high approval rating.

Clinton had nothing to lose.


27 posted on 12/01/2018 2:35:32 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Indeed.


28 posted on 12/01/2018 2:36:32 PM PST by slouper (LWRC SPR 5.5 6)
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To: logi_cal869

Zapata, thats a name from the past. I was on the Zapata “Investigator” in the Gulf of Thailand in 1973 as a young oilfield diver. I remember them testing the well after a few months of drilling. It was a bust.


29 posted on 12/01/2018 2:51:45 PM PST by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: Kaslin

Bush lost in 1992 because of Ross Perot.


30 posted on 12/01/2018 3:09:41 PM PST by tellw (ed)
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To: BatGuano

Clinton definitely has more b@ll$ than any of GHWB’s sons did.

Maybe that’s why 41 liked Bubba so much.

I also think there was some sort of father figure thing with this, too, considering that Clinton never knew his dad and may have “adopted” the elder Bush for this purpose.

It would make a fascinating study in psychohistory.


31 posted on 12/01/2018 3:13:03 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.r)
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To: Kaslin

Sounds fair to me.


32 posted on 12/01/2018 3:15:11 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Kaslin

GHWB was a disaster. He destroyed the Reagan vision. He opened America to what we are today.


33 posted on 12/01/2018 3:34:50 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Catmom
I haven't made a detailed study of the question but I agree that it is likely Bush would have lost even if Perot had not been in the race--but it is hard to be sure of the dynamics of the race if he had not had two people beating up on him.

One good thing about President Bush's sky-high popularity after the Gulf War was that Thurgood Marshall evidently thought that Bush was sure to be re-elected, so he retired from the Supreme Court and Bush was able to pick Clarence Thomas to replace him. If Marshall had stayed on the Court until his death, Clinton would have picked his replacement.

Bush's popularity after the Gulf War may have scared some prominent Democrats out of running, letting Clinton get the nomination.

34 posted on 12/01/2018 3:38:23 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: MrEdd

Man I wish Alan Keyes had won the senate


35 posted on 12/01/2018 3:40:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Kaslin

The economy WAS weak. And his ratings DID plunge from almost 90% in a matter of months.

Those comments are not half as bad as many on FR today.


36 posted on 12/01/2018 3:56:42 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Yaelle

I donated to his Maryland run. Some people who worked on his campaigns began to suspect that he ran mainly to pay himself from the campaign funds. Apparently you can keep the money that you don’t spend.


37 posted on 12/01/2018 5:23:04 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Verginius Rufus

There’s always 3rd party candidates. They only gain ground if the incumbent isn’t paying attention to the voters.

GHW Bush was elected with a lot of votes from people who thought he would govern like Reagan. But he didn’t, and that cost him.


38 posted on 12/01/2018 5:34:19 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Kaslin
but then plummeted in the throes of a weak economy that led voters to turn him out of office after a single term

There was indeed a mild recession during his term, but by the time of the election it was again experiencing robust growth. Of course, the news media didn't report it that way. The recession was long over by then with strong economic growth, but the fake news media wanted Bill Clinton in office and by golly, they were going to get the public to believe the economy was still in recession.

39 posted on 12/01/2018 8:16:46 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Catmom

Though it is purely an academic argument we can never really know...the Perot voters could be polled about who they supposedly ‘would’ have voted for had Perot not been in the race, but even they don’t know that because the campaign without him in the race and it just being Bush and Clinton responding and engaging with each other was never waged to affect their thought processes when election day came around.


40 posted on 12/01/2018 8:35:05 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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