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If Air France No Longer Wants The Airbus A380, Will Anyone?
Forbes ^ | November 27, 2018 | Michael Goldstein

Posted on 11/28/2018 5:23:46 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: trotskylvalia
What sort of nimrod would fly arab run airline ?

I've flown them about a half dozen times and they were very good each time.The cockpit crew has always been native English speakers (Aussies,Brits,Canadians,Americans,etc) and the aircraft I've flown have always been 777s or A380s...all appearing new and very well maintained.

And FYI...the UAE is nothing like Saudi Arabia.Yes,they're kinda strict in some ways but,unlike in Saudi,it's not easy to be beheaded there.They don't take their religion nearly as seriously as some moslem countries.

41 posted on 11/28/2018 6:27:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: EveningStar

Stand the 380 up vertically and turn it into an apartment building.


42 posted on 11/28/2018 6:30:42 PM PST by lurk
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To: EveningStar
I think the French build the best corporate jet there is.

The three engine Falcon! ... I love the extra engine for safety..I never liked two engine jets and I don't like single prop light craft either.

The Falcon is not the fastest corporate jet...that would be the CitationX at 700mph and 52,000ft...Trump has one.

43 posted on 11/28/2018 6:33:36 PM PST by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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To: Sirius Lee

Aaaaah,back when flying was a pleasure.

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44 posted on 11/28/2018 6:37:02 PM PST by Mears
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To: Bobalu
Amazingly, the old 707 is still a viable aircraft that is in service by both civilian and military users...it’s simply the finest fuel tanker in existence. It’s also a great platform for AWACS and scientific purposes.

Yes, lots of KC-135s and AWACS still service. I was responsible for a comm system installed on AWACS back in the early 80s. We joked - even then - that Boeing could still build a 707. Now it's almost forty years later and...

45 posted on 11/28/2018 6:43:12 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Bobalu

Pretty cool...

https://www.xojet.com/charter-fleet/aircraft/citation-x


46 posted on 11/28/2018 6:50:07 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: Don W
Like this? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=747+fire+tanker
47 posted on 11/28/2018 7:09:42 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: rlmorel

The Boeing has larger buttons and knobs.


48 posted on 11/28/2018 7:18:19 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: EveningStar

They guessed wrong on that one. Didn’t help that you have to remodel your airport to accommodate the beast. Now it is a niche product that few airlines can fill to capacity.


49 posted on 11/28/2018 7:26:24 PM PST by Tilting
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To: trotskylvalia
"What sort of nimrod would fly arab run airline ?"

Particularly during the annual trek from Riyadh to Mecca... Filthy. disease infested, poop in the aisles, etc...

Safer to rent a big Mercedes, BMW, or Audi and drive the 493 miles across the desert at 150 mph...

50 posted on 11/28/2018 7:32:38 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: EveningStar

The chief problem with the 380 is that ATC has to give it five minutes separation from all other a/c. Nothing else requires more than three minutes. So at peak bank, when you’re trying to cram in arrivals and departures as much as possible, in an hour you can land (or take off) only 12 380s but 20 of anything else. Which also means you can service 20 different destinations instead of just 12.

Combine that with the fact that its limited by how many airports have runways and terminals big enough to accommodate it.

It’s literally the answer to the question no one was asking.


51 posted on 11/28/2018 7:37:17 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Bobalu
"The three engine Falcon! ... I love the extra engine for safety..I never liked two engine jets and I don't like single prop light craft either...."

Fewer engines usually is a faster configuration because there is a minimum climb requirement with one engine inop (OEI). So a twin-engine jet has to be able to maintain the same rate of climb on just one engine as your 3-engined Falcon does on two. Which means each of its engines has to make as much thrust as two of the Falcon's combined, so if both are turnin' and burnin' it has a substantial thrust advantage, because it has fewer engines.

And it's a myth that more engines is safer, in commercial a/c anyway, because they're all perfectly capable of maintaining flight OEI. Plus fewer engines is cheaper to build and maintain.

Light aircraft is a horse of another color. The old saying is that the only reason that light twins have two engines is so that if one dies, there's still one operating to make sure you get to the scene of the crash.

52 posted on 11/28/2018 7:51:25 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: SunTzuWu

Juan Browne is a pretty cool guy. His reports on the Oroville Dam were great last year, and these reports are just as good.

Thanks for the link. I didn’t even think to look for him, even though these fires are near the same area.


53 posted on 11/28/2018 7:53:00 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: PGR88

It was a misread of the market.....

They thought putting more people in one plane for long routes was what the market was going to want, instead they just wanted better range and fuel economy.


54 posted on 11/28/2018 7:59:46 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: PAR35

The smell upon landing would be so bad that they would have to burn it to the ramp.


55 posted on 11/28/2018 9:10:06 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: EveningStar
...it's behind me, isn't it?


56 posted on 11/28/2018 9:42:18 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: EveningStar

Emirates flys a bunch of them, and IIRC they just ordered a few more


57 posted on 11/28/2018 10:03:00 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Cripplehawk

“A380 costs between $26,000 and $29,000 per hour to operate, compared to about $7400 an hour for the Boeing 777.”


58 posted on 11/28/2018 10:57:50 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I didn’t notice that, but I think you are correct! Interesting observation...perhaps made to be handled with gloves on if needed?


59 posted on 11/29/2018 6:07:02 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Paal Gulli
"...The old saying is that the only reason that light twins have two engines is so that if one dies, there's still one operating to make sure you get to the scene of the crash..."

Hahahahaha!

60 posted on 11/29/2018 6:09:36 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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