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N. York's Highest Court Rules Immigrants Deserve Jury Trials, Even for Misdemeanors.....
wnyc ^ | 11/27/2018 | Beth Fertig

Posted on 11/27/2018 8:23:51 PM PST by caww

New York State's highest court has ruled that immigrants are entitled to a jury trial, even when they're accused of misdemeanor crimes that carry sentences of six months or less. The court ruled that the penalty of deportation was severe enough to warrant a jury trial.

The case was brought by the Center for Appellate Litigation in New York. The Bronx Defenders filed a friend of the court brief; it represented the defendant in his original case, and in his immigration proceedings.

in his dissent, Judge Michael Garcia wrote that this ruling would open the door "to further litigation, in both state and federal courts, over exactly which collateral consequences may make an otherwise 'petty' offense 'serious.'

"It is doubtful that importing federal immigration law into the penalty analysis was something the Supreme Court intended when it made the Sixth Amendment right to trial by jury for 'serious' offenses applicable to the states."

He said the Supreme Court has the ultimate authority to settle this issue and should.

The Legal Aid Society called it a "landmark case" that will provide clients a meaningful opportunity to fight against criminal charges that could lead to deportation.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnyc.org ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; newyork
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To: lee martell

I suppose so......likely she’ll have a ‘free’ activist attorney to represent her.....they are well funded by the left.


21 posted on 11/27/2018 8:54:35 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Time for the new Supreme Court to bitchslap the NY Court of Appeals, another cheap imitation of the 9th Circuit US Court of Appeals.

Deportation is basically a “Civil” action, not a criminal one. The assault in this case was the criminal act.

Liberal judges are total asses and continually prove it every day, to the detriment of our country.

Time for term limits for all judges.


22 posted on 11/27/2018 8:55:09 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Dogbert41
Illegals are NOT IMMIGRANTS.

You are right, of course - but nothing in the title or the excerpt indicates that this refers to ILLEGAL immigrants.

And, by the way: In my opinion, deportation should not be considered a penalty, but rather a return to the status quo.

Regards,

23 posted on 11/27/2018 8:55:39 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: caww

I want the damn English language back.

This article apparently is about trespassing foreign citizens being granted the right to a jury trial. The idiocy of this ruling becomes apparent when its description is not shrouded in deliberately deceptive word-games.

This story has nothing whatsoever to do with legal immigrants and their rights.


24 posted on 11/27/2018 8:57:56 PM PST by Junk Silver ("It's a little hard to herd people onto trains when they're shooting at you." SirLurkedalot)
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To: CraigEsq

The problem isn’t a lack of access to a jury, imo. The problem is using state funded prosecutors and defense lawyers over minor charges. There should be a way for minor offenses to be determined without going whole hog on state resources. Minor offenses should be determined at a more community level, with community level punishments being meted out.

Now, minor offenses will not prosecuted at all because the costs will be tens of thousands of dollars every time somebody steals less than $500 worth of stuff.


25 posted on 11/27/2018 8:58:02 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cults.)
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To: RightGeek

Why? Because there’s so many activists groups and attorney’s well funded to fight against it. Gov. Brown in CA. just expanded their budget ‘to fight deportations’ to $33 million......the illegals have nothing to loose. All is provided one way or another.


26 posted on 11/27/2018 8:58:03 PM PST by caww
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To: Junk Silver

Tell that to all the attorney’s and politicians celebrating this decision.


27 posted on 11/27/2018 9:00:02 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Rome (USA) has fallen the democrats set out on a quest to destroy the USA after they lost the Civil War. They are almost there, to see the “Fruits of their labor” to destroy the USA


28 posted on 11/27/2018 9:01:55 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: caww

Judge “Garcia” - Well, who would be surprised?

Mexitrash greasing the wheels for Mexitrash.

Wonder how much Soros paid this used ass-wipe?


29 posted on 11/27/2018 9:02:23 PM PST by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: caww

The judge is right. They illegal immigrants deserve a trial by a jury of their peers.. back in their country of origin. And this judge should be stationed in one of those countries, preferably Venezuela, to see to it they get a fair trial


30 posted on 11/27/2018 9:02:36 PM PST by unlearner (A war is coming... UPDATE: War has begun.)
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To: Widget Jr
It's about 'overwhelming every system', courts, borders and this administration with anything and everything.....it's a destructive force full of Globalist Elites and their thuggery.... Hillary and Obama had the stage set and we're seeing that machinery in full operation. It's not going to get better until Republicans stop thinking about their positions and do their job and fight back....if necessary dirty!
31 posted on 11/27/2018 9:05:24 PM PST by caww
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To: Salvavida

It truly doesn’t look like it’s going to end.....the enemies of this country are so deeply embedded....they began taking over long ago but Obamas terms had free reign to cover, hide and distract from what they were really up to. Now they’re operating quite openly yet still the GOP lacks, willingly and not, to step up and get their hands dirty protecting what we have left.


32 posted on 11/27/2018 9:11:48 PM PST by caww
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To: realcleanguy

The USA is the only ‘footprint’ on the world stage that’s keeping things from fully sliding into chaos everywhere......those on the path to destroy our nation know it. Trump is trying to at least keep this nation from falling into the Global World Order.....it is very difficult seeing any nations leadership as ‘friends’ of the USA as things are now.


33 posted on 11/27/2018 9:15:54 PM PST by caww
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To: caww; All

Yep. The Cloward-Piven strategy on display for everyone to see. Sadly Obama got so many judges in that they are nearly guaranteed to hit a Leftist judge who will give them anything they want. And now Roberts has switched sides. How many Repub nominees have gone over to the dark side??


34 posted on 11/27/2018 9:15:59 PM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: JME_FAN

Soros has created an ‘Unholy Alliance” with most of the Demoratic Leadership...his sons are doing all the leg work with the Washington Elites etc. While Soros, Hillary, Obama, Kerry etc...along with others meet with World leaders.


35 posted on 11/27/2018 9:19:58 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

JUST ANOTHER LAWYER JOB SECURITY PROGRAM.


36 posted on 11/27/2018 9:23:22 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: JME_FAN

Read. Judge Garcia was in the dissent; aka no on this bs.


37 posted on 11/27/2018 9:24:41 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: caww

So we all can have jury trials for virtually any case? Can NY afford this? Is it what the law allows or requires or is this judicial legislation?


38 posted on 11/27/2018 9:25:07 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: originalbuckeye

Well it’s a full assault on anyone who won’t toe their line. I do not put it past threats against families..... Governments are now full of elites worldwide....and the cash flow runs into all these fake foundations and organizations......with Hollywood Actors playing their role of the middle men funneling it here in the states as well.


39 posted on 11/27/2018 9:27:19 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

An incredibly mealy mouthed court.


40 posted on 11/27/2018 9:27:42 PM PST by inchworm
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