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Why the “Good Guy with a Gun” Argument Doesn’t Work With Leftists
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2018 | Karen Kataline

Posted on 11/27/2018 10:51:37 AM PST by Kaslin

As we are enjoying our Thanksgiving leftovers, some of us are thinking about the next set of issues over which the Left will spontaneously combust. Funny how it’s often timed perfectly for the next political fight and they are relatively quiet until people start paying attention after the New Year.

When Democrats gain control of the house in January, they will be fighting harder than ever to convince us that law-abiding citizens shouldn’t be trusted to have guns to defend themselves. Not long ago, they balked bitterly at the accusation that their real goal was to repeal the Second Amendment. Now, many have finally started to admit that this is precisely what they had in mind all along. Good for them. Better for us. They are easier to beat when they tell the truth. Unfortunately, that’s never very often.

Conservatives have an excellent argument in favor of the Second Amendment by proclaiming that “it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun.” Unfortunately, it makes no sense to Leftists and it’s instructive to examine why.

The Left has been working overtime to erase the difference between good guys and bad guys. To them, we are all just as capable of being Charles Manson as we are Mother Theresa. They claim that individual choice and personal responsibility has nothing to do with who is good and who is evil. Maybe that’s why they can always be counted upon to come to the defense of ruthless, hardened criminals. They have for decades perpetuated the idea that criminals are victims. Now, they've moved on to painting law-abiding citizens are criminals. This speeds us on the road to being all the same. Think of it as the redistribution of personal responsibility.

If you are white, male, Christian, or God-forbid, a Republican, you are already guilty without having done anything at all. If you dare to own a gun, you are de facto guilty. It doesn’t matter what choices you make. The Left does not consider this to be prejudice as long as the right people are pre-judged. They argue that they can perfect the world and our behavior by creating a “correct” society which they will define for us. We are merely spokes in their socialist utopian wheel.

Whether it’s about women, guns, taxes, or trade, positions on the Left are built on the same collectivist bigotry. No one ever seems to hold them accountable for not counting themselves among the groups into which they have categorized everyone else. That’s how Michael Moore is able to rail about stupid white men even though he is one. That level of arrogance is reserved only for the power elite.

This crazy-making, upside down thinking makes most conservatives either shake their heads or giggle. “How can anybody actually believe that?” Possibly for the same reasons the Left believes that all women should be believed because they are women; that you can “identify” as anything you want but you shouldn’t engage in "cultural appropriation,” and that eating Chicken Cacciatore constitutes a holocaust on your plate.

Still, the Left is losing some of their mojo. It’s tough to try to convince people that they shouldn’t be able to defend themselves when Leftist politicians refuse to condemn the bullying and threatening behavior of their own base. In some cases, they have actually incited that behavior.

It is harder than ever to convince somebody like Tucker Carlson’s wife to give up her right to defend herself since she was recently visited at her home by “Anti-Fascist” Fascists chanting “We know where you sleep”. People like this especially love the idea of repealing the Second Amendment. Criminals always like it better when the people they’re attacking can’t fight back.

So what sort of Second Amendment argument could work with Leftists? I suggest we do a little “cultural appropriation” of our own. Let’s resurrect some of the trends that liberals themselves made famous in the sixties. I don’t think they’ll mind, since they aren’t using them anymore.

Liberals used to be champions of free speech. They made it cool to be a non-conformist and to “do your own thing.” They put individualism in fashion even though they all dressed and spoke alike!

Before we can make the argument that "a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun," our opponents will have to recognize that there are indeed good guys and bad guys. Individual choices and personal accountability is what makes much of the difference between them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; nra; secondamendment; theleft
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To: papertyger

Canonized by Herbert Marcuse: Tolerance is to be unilateral and reserved solely for leftists.


41 posted on 11/27/2018 4:50:50 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Society is both cause and cure: No one is inherently evil. Thus, Society must have all power, in order to redeem the lost person whom Society has failed.

A FReeper (fishtank?) has the tagline: Denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.


42 posted on 11/27/2018 4:54:51 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Kaslin

The gun cannot be uninvented. So indeed only bad guys would have guns.

The left is okay with that, since keeping the lawful majority cowed and controlled is the real goal.


43 posted on 11/27/2018 4:57:47 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: YogicCowboy

Thanks


44 posted on 11/28/2018 4:01:34 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Kaslin
"Why do I carry a gun? A cop is too heavy..."
"When it's a matter of seconds, the police are only minutes away!"
Just beware of overpenetration, 00 buckshot and 5.56 FMJ will both penetrate around a dozen sheets of drywall...and 9mm FMJ isn't too far from that either. Expanding rounds help a bit, but not as much as you might think...
45 posted on 11/28/2018 6:43:00 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: RatRipper

‘To subject society to the false proposition that there are no “bad guys” or “good guys” IS tyranny.’

I suppose you could look at it that way, but I was referring to the kind that enslaves the population by a rogue central government; the kind the Founders warned us about.


46 posted on 11/28/2018 8:04:32 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: libertylover

“Retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens Calls For Repeal Of Second Amendment”

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597259426/retired-supreme-court-justice-stevens-calls-for-repeal-of-second-amendment

“Karen Carter Peterson, chair of the Louisiana Democratic Party, has distinguished herself as the highest-profile Democrat in the country to outright call for a repeal of the Second Amendment.”

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/article_4e3c27f8-3761-11e8-89ff-8bda105787e9.html

“Repealing the Second Amendment isn’t easy but it’s what March for Our Lives students need”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/03/28/repealing-second-amendment-march-our-lives-students/463644002/

“Democrats, 39 percent, do indeed want to repeal Second Amendment”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/28/repeal-2nd-amendment-cry-resonates-39-percent-demo/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIudLQxcT33gIVCQdpCh2lZwYPEAMYASAAEgL7xPD_BwE

“Repeal the Second Amendment“

https://www.americamagazine.org/repeal-second-amendment


47 posted on 11/28/2018 8:48:56 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MichaelCorleone

You are exactly right. I was looking at it through George Orwell goggles and relating the propaganda aspect to what our founding fathers would consider as “tyranny”. Bastardizing the moral standards of our culture and nation, I believe, they would consider tyranny. . . of which there are many flavors. The Commie Left, with the assistance of the MSM, is very adept at creating new twists and manifestations of “tyranny”.


48 posted on 11/28/2018 9:17:17 AM PST by RatRipper (The Democrat Party is the party of liars, swindlers, cheats and unbridled immorality.)
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To: Kaslin

The Left wants to define good and bad based on obedience to the State. To succeed, they must first erase traditional notions of good and bad. So amorality is just a stepping stone to a new morality, based on the whim and wisdom of those in charge, that is to say, them.


49 posted on 11/28/2018 9:37:42 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I stand corrected.


50 posted on 11/28/2018 9:41:07 AM PST by libertylover (I'm not against immigration; I'm against ILLEGAL immigration.)
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To: libertylover

I only posted that because I think the democrat party is rapidly moving toward full Marxism. Better everyone should see the signs. When you have a recent Supreme Court justice saying this, you know that repeal is what they want.


51 posted on 11/28/2018 10:07:05 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: sourcery
“If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?” ~ Frederic Bastiat

Wow!! I've never heard that one before.

52 posted on 11/28/2018 11:11:49 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Bastiat is required reading.


53 posted on 11/28/2018 11:50:46 AM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Kaslin

because they don’t know any good guys


54 posted on 11/28/2018 6:22:17 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: sourcery
To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the law abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless.

Rather like a mother lion abandoning her cubs to a pack of hyenas.

55 posted on 11/28/2018 7:32:27 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The Left just has a fundamental problem with “evil”. They don’t think it exists.

Fundamentally, the left IS evil.

56 posted on 11/28/2018 7:36:31 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Kaslin
I've honestly stopped engaging my more radical acquaintances about it. They have genuinely, passionately, and very overtly declared me an enemy and my existence intolerable in the world that they imagine. There's not really a lot of room for reason in all of that.

They'll come for us when they think it's safe enough and fly when they discover it isn't. What happens after that is the question.

57 posted on 11/28/2018 7:42:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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