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911 Tapes Answer Questions in Oregon Murder, Self Defense Shooting
Ammoland ^ | 20 November, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/22/2018 5:14:59 AM PST by marktwain

911 Tapes Answer Questions in Oregon Murder, Self Defense Shooting

On 21 October 2018, Tyler Herrick entered his neighbor's house, uninvited. Kyle Adams woke to find Herrick in his bedroom. He is said to have told Herrick to leave, and that Herrick did so.  Herrick and Adams were both 33-years old.

Adams called his roommate, Brennan Pebbles, who is 31 years old. Pebbles left work and came to the house.

While roommates Adams and Pebbles were talking in the front room, Herrick came back with an AR-15 type rifle, shot through the front window and killed Kyle Adams. Pebbles ran upstairs to access his 9mm self-defense pistol.

Herrick shot out the window near the front door, entered, and hunted Pebbles.

Pebbles, using his 9mm pistol, shot and mortally wounded Herrick as Herrick entered the master bedroom.

The murder and self-defense shooting were described in an Ammoland article about differences in mindset between armed and unarmed people.

The audio tapes of the 911 call made by Brennan Pebbles have been released. They contain considerable information that answers some of the questions about the incident. Some things may never be known. The investigation of possible motives for Herrick is ongoing. Herrick was never in trouble with the law and had no history of violence. He acted normally up to a couple of hours before the shooting. Toxicology tests have not come back from the laboratory yet.

You can listen to the 911 call here. Some operating systems may need to listen to a second part here.

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 911; banglist; or; selfdefense
Whatever you say on 911 is recorded. It can be used against you in a court of law.
1 posted on 11/22/2018 5:14:59 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I might be wrong but I am sensing a gay love triangle aspect to this event.


2 posted on 11/22/2018 5:30:33 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: marktwain
AR-15 type rifle.... Yeah right.
3 posted on 11/22/2018 5:40:43 AM PST by lizma2
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To: lizma2
Could have been Bishmaster or Ruger or some other modern design rifle rather than Colt/Armalite branded. Good choice for the job. Poorly deployed if the shooter had wanted to not only surprise but dominate. Luckily, the 9mm of the defender stopped it.
4 posted on 11/22/2018 6:03:52 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: super7man

I considered that, but it does not seem to fit the facts.

My best guess is drugs of some kind. The police are speculating “bath salts”.


5 posted on 11/22/2018 6:23:53 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

“Whatever you say on 911 is recorded. It can be used against you in a court of law.”

It’s advised by some self defense experts to have someone else call 911 if at all possible.


6 posted on 11/22/2018 7:12:52 AM PST by suthener (E)
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I listened to the tape. Brennan says he had 2 roommates, one who was sleeping, yet only one was in the house (Adams, now deceased).

“It’s you plus 2 other roommates?”

“Yes. I don’t know the status of them.”

“There could be a total of 3, yes.” (people shot)

I never found any written media report about this 2nd roommate...

As well, Brennan said on the 911 tape he didn’t know the shooter, Herrick, yet media reports (linked below) say he & his deceased roommate were “acquaintances”.

“Do you know this person?”

“No, I don’t know who he is. I have no idea.”

Furthermore, the 911 tapes describe Brennan being instructed to open the curtains on the front, shot-out window by a responding officer and Brennan said he “turned on the lights”, yet the following was reported:

““Herrick stood in front of the living room window, aimed his rifle at Adams and Pebbles, and fired multiple shots that shattered the front window. At least one of the rounds struck Adams, who eventually died from his injury.”

“Adams and Pebbles were in their living room when Herrick came back to the house armed with an AR-15 rifle, prosecutors said. Herrick stood in front of the living room window, aimed his gun at the two men inside and fired multiple shots, according to officials.”

How did the lights get turned off and curtains closed if Brennan fled gunfire which was aimed at his roommate? Who determined the shooter aimed at Brennan? Why would he have shot through the window if the curtains were drawn and the lights out?

If he was hiding in the bathroom, how did the perp end up shot and blocking the now-closed bedroom door?

I don’t like unresolved questions as noted. Perhaps nothing to it, but in a different jurisdiction the DA might be using these unanswered questions against the man now apparently cleared in a justified shooting.

Shooting scenarios mentally-gamed by firearms owners should include keeping details as vague as possible and, if possible (not in this case) have someone else call 911 and keep your damned mouth shut.

https://www.registerguard.com/news/20181026/former-lane-county-resident-killed-in-bizarre-bend-shooting

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/10/oregon_man_killed_after_shooti.html


7 posted on 11/22/2018 12:35:21 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: suthener

Or if the situation is no longer “emergent,” call the regular number. They’ll still come in a hurry.


8 posted on 11/22/2018 1:42:46 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: logi_cal869
How did the lights get turned off and curtains closed if Brennan fled gunfire which was aimed at his roommate? Who determined the shooter aimed at Brennan? Why would he have shot through the window if the curtains were drawn and the lights out? If he was hiding in the bathroom, how did the perp end up shot and blocking the now-closed bedroom door?

It is possible to come up with an infinite number of possibilities and questions. But there are easy potential answers to your questions.

Herrick had access to the house once he entered. He could have turned off lights. We do not know that the window he entered was the same window he shot Adams through, nor do we know the lights to the door area were the same as the lights in the front room or living room. In the article, it states that Herrick shot the lock in the front door, disabling it. It would be reasonable to assume that having failed to gain access via the door, he shot out a window alongside the door to gain access. He shot multiple times downstairs before he was stopped at the master bedroom door.

While not definitive, Adams was the one shot in the head. If Herrick was not aiming at him, we have no way of knowing otherwise.

As stated above, there is no reason to believe the window that Adams was shot through was the window Herrick entered or that Brendon used to exit.

It is not unreasonable for someone in the bathroom in a master bedroom to be able to see the entrance door to the bedroom. It could be an excellent defensive position to defend against an intruder. It serves as both cover and concealment.

9 posted on 11/22/2018 6:35:03 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

You’re missing my point: These unanswered questions could easily have gone against Pebbles. There are unexplained inconsistencies. However, based upon what we know, I presume that either the DA knows something or a GJ has looked at it.

Hard to dispute a good outcome, but you never addressed Pebbles’ inconsistency on knowing the guy.

Favored outcome or not, I don’t like unanswered questions.


10 posted on 11/22/2018 7:58:43 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

As you state, there are unanswered questions.

There always will be.

Not having access to the police investigative reports, I cannot answer your questions. The police stated that the physical evidence was consistent with Pebbles story.

I do not find it inconsistent that Pebbles did not recognize an acquaintance after shooting him in an early morning hours gunfight.

People have hundreds, potentially thousands of acquaintances. To expect Pebbles to recognize this guy as he is breathing his last, down and against his bedroom door, is unreasonable.

I would likely not recognize the grocery store clerk in such a situation. Pebbles was careful not to alter the crime scene. He was reasonably wary about coming in contact with his attacker.

Some people have an excellent memory for faces. Many do not.

Many people recognize others because of familiar circumstances they are found in.


11 posted on 11/23/2018 4:05:20 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Still badly missing my point. But I relent. I care not.


12 posted on 11/23/2018 8:08:30 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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