[MileHi]

You’ve been pushing this “coming civil war” for as long as I can remember. Yet there has still been no civil war. Obviously this is just conspiracy nonsense propagated by kooks. Why would anyone buy into this stuff if it hasn’t happened within a year of it first being put forward?

[DuncanWaring]

Here's the opening paragraph of Barbara Tuchman's "Guns of August":

“So gorgeous was the spectacle on the May morning of 1910 when nine kings rode in the funeral of Edward VII of England that the crowd, waiting in hushed and black-clad awe, could not keep back gasps of admiration. In scarlet and green and blue and purple, three by three the sovereigns rode through the palace gates, with plumed helmets, gold braid, crimson sashes, and jeweled orders flashing in the sun. After them came five heirs apparent, forty more imperial or royal highnesses, seven queens – four dowager and three regnant – and a scattering of special ambassadors from uncrowned countries. Together they represented seventy nations in the greatest assemblage of royalty and rank ever gathered in one place and, of its kind, the last. The muffled tongue of Big Ben tolled nine by the clock as the cortege left the palace, but on history’s clock it was sunset, and the sun of the old world was setting in a dying blaze of splendor never to be seen again.”

Imagine that you traveled back in time, and were standing in the crowd watching the funeral procession, and telling the people around you "In five years, the countries represented here will be machine-gunning each other's young men on an industrial scale. Further, in thirty years, one of these countries will be shoveling people into incinerators by the trainload".

People would have thought you were absolutely daft.

But you would have been right.

[Jack Black]

I'm not pushing anything, as you well know. Because almost every CWII ping for a decade has explained that.

I started this ping list with three other FReepers many years ago because I find it interesting how often the Civil War is invoked in contemporary politics. I still do. In fact I wrote about it a few days ago on another post?

Seeing as you've already sent me an email asking to be taken off the list, which I complied with, I don't quite understand why you are here. You've also gone out of you way to personally insult me in PMs, calling me a kook, saying you no longer respect me.

Can't get enough of calling people names elsewhere?

[VanShuyten]

In John Batchelor’s series of interviews with Dr. Vlahos on this subject of the coming civil war, one interview was about the late 1850s, and how most people could not envision the war that was about to happen and believed that, with some kind of bargaining, it wouldn’t. Dr. Vlahos pointed out that Americans already were in the early stages of civil war, but most people refused to acknowledge it.

For more in depth discussions of this, I recommend the podcasts from the John Batchelor Show of the discussions between Vlahos and Batchelor.