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How Hyundai Motor, once a rising star, lost its shine
Reuters ^ | November 4, 2018 / 5:13 PM | Hyunjoo Jin, Ben Klayman, Yilei Sun

Posted on 11/12/2018 4:27:17 PM PST by Zhang Fei

At a near-empty Hyundai Motor (005380.KS) showroom in the Chinese mega city of Chongqing, the store manager is grumbling about his shortage of customers and a lack of bigger, cheaper SUV models popular in the world’s largest auto market.

Even with discounting of as much as 25 percent, his dealership was selling barely a hundred vehicles a month, said the manager surnamed Li. A nearby Nissan (7201.T) dealership was selling about 400 vehicles a month, a store manager there said.

“The sales are simply poor,” Li told Reuters. “Look at the Nissan store next door, they have tens of customers while we just have two.”

An hour’s drive away is Hyundai’s massive $1 billion manufacturing plant, which opened last year with a target to produce 300,000 vehicles per year.

But with sales weak and the Chinese auto market slowing sharply, the factory is running at roughly 30 percent of capacity, two people with knowledge of the matter said. The sources asked not to be identified because the information was not public.

Hyundai, the world’s 5th largest automaker, declined to comment on the Chongqing plant’s production or the showroom’s sales but said it is “closely cooperating” with local partner BAIC (1958.HK) to turn around the China business. BAIC did not respond to requests for comment.

Hyundai’s woes mark a major reversal for the automaker which was an early success story in China as it quickly and cheaply rolled out popular new models into a surging market.

In 2009, Hyundai and partner Kia’s combined sales ranked third in China after General Motors (GM.N) and Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE).

The South Korean duo now ranks ninth and its market share in China has more than halved to 4 percent last year, from more than 10 percent at the beginning of this decade.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automobiles; automotive; benklayman; cars; china; fiatchrysler; ford; generalmotors; hyundai; hyunjoojin; japan; kia; korea; nissan; republicofkorea; taiwan; volkswagen; yileisun
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Hyundai has come a long way, image- and quality-wise. However, in pricing its products above the major Japanese marques, it may have jumped the shark and precipitated its recent fall in unit sales. I had thought that this was strictly a stateside phenomenon. It appears the rot has made its way to China.
1 posted on 11/12/2018 4:27:17 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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In the US, they broke away the Genesis ticking off a lot of Hyundai dealers.

And not 1 in 10 customers knows what a Genesis is!


2 posted on 11/12/2018 4:36:28 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Zhang Fei

Resale value on Hyundai’s are terrible. For those who keep them for up to 200k miles; they are a good buy though. Hard to beat the 100k warranty too.

I thought they were made in S. Korea. Do they all get made in China?


3 posted on 11/12/2018 4:41:55 PM PST by Boomer (The best leftists are those who have left us for another country)
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To: Zhang Fei

Have owned 3 Hyundais since 2011. Have been very pleased with the 11 Sonata, 16 Tuscon and my daughter adores her 18 Kona. Cars are well designed and the service, though this can vary depending on the dealer, has been Saturn like. Saturns were our go to car from 93 till Barky had GM destroy the brand, though from 05 on they were less Saturn and more straight GM.


4 posted on 11/12/2018 4:43:06 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: TexasGator
I drive a Genesis 5.0

Probably the nicest thing I will ever own. 429 hp and the same stereo as a Roll Royce Phantom.

5 posted on 11/12/2018 4:44:11 PM PST by Manic_Episode (Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: TexasGator

[In the US, they broke away the Genesis ticking off a lot of Hyundai dealers.

And not 1 in 10 customers knows what a Genesis is!]


Hyundai was just several years into breaking away from the ignominy of the Excel’s reputation as a lemon, when it started raising prices big time. This was at a time when the Japanese manufacturers were continuing to de-content their cars, taking care to keep reliability of the bread-and-butter powertrain components intact, while chintzing out on trim, to keep pricing competitive. It took well over a decade of established Toyota reliability stateside before it started the Lexus marque. Hyundai really jumped the gun.


6 posted on 11/12/2018 4:46:15 PM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I’ve read the rave reviews of the Kia Stinger GT. Price isn’t exactly cheap at $45-$55k, but it a note upscale Kia, sorry odd like the Genesis branding.


7 posted on 11/12/2018 4:48:01 PM PST by Blue Highway
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They used to offer a V6 Sonata. Good power to weight ratio. Then they pulled the V6 offering, and you had to pay Genesis prices to get a nice engine in a sedan. Toyota still offered a 2018 a V6 Camry (although Honda has ditched the Accord).


8 posted on 11/12/2018 4:48:25 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Blue Highway

* more upscale.

* sort of like the Genesis branding.


9 posted on 11/12/2018 4:50:40 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Boomer

Hyundais are made in Georgia; Kias in Alabama.


10 posted on 11/12/2018 4:50:47 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Manic_Episode

I do know someone who drives the same car. White dude and the only thing he knows the customer service from the dealership was excellent. Obviously they were Koreans but every time there was a minor issue, they replace or fix it asap.


11 posted on 11/12/2018 4:53:17 PM PST by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Zhang Fei

We have owned 4 Hyundais. We will own a 5th soon.

Great cars. Fair price. Excellent warranty.

L


12 posted on 11/12/2018 4:54:28 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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I traded in a 2008 Acura TL on a 2018 Hyundai Sonata Limited. There isn’t much I miss about the TL considering what the Sonata gives me. It’s a 4 cylinder with 185Hp. I get about 35mpg on the highway.

It’s comfortable, well appointed, and reliable.

They gave me 500 for being a veteran, 500 for owning a Hyundai, (my wife has a Santa Fe), and I got 500 from Nationwide. The cost, out the door was $23.5k. Cheaper than Accord, Camry, or Maxima.


13 posted on 11/12/2018 4:55:33 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: PAR35

[They used to offer a V6 Sonata. Good power to weight ratio. Then they pulled the V6 offering, and you had to pay Genesis prices to get a nice engine in a sedan. Toyota still offered a 2018 a V6 Camry (although Honda has ditched the Accord).]


I suspect Toyota still has its V6 because the Prius is helping with blended EPA gas mileage requirements, whereas Honda has no Prius-equivalent to raise its gas mileage. So it’s going with turbo 4’s.


14 posted on 11/12/2018 4:56:47 PM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Still like my 2012 Kia Sportage EX, but thinking odd a new Niro hybrid. I bought my Sportage with the 32/28 mpg as the main selling point. Actual combined is more like 25 and that’s with me hypermiling to conserve gas. The Niro will get 52 all day and hypermiling prickly in the high 60s.

At least the Kia settlement mpg program will reimburse as long as I own the car. They have refunded me a couple of $100 gift cards based on the mileage driven and the local gas pricesn


15 posted on 11/12/2018 4:57:09 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: PAR35

Other way around. The Kia plant is in West Point, GA, near the AL line.


16 posted on 11/12/2018 4:57:10 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Boomer

There is a relatively new Hyundai $1.7 billion manufacturing plant (2003-04) in Montgomery, Alabama.


17 posted on 11/12/2018 4:59:02 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: xkaydet65

My daughter had a 2005 Hyundai Accent. Good reliable basic transportation. Also very comfortable and smooth riding for such a small car.


18 posted on 11/12/2018 4:59:48 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: TexasGator

“In the US, they broke away the Genesis ticking off a lot of Hyundai dealers.”

Broke away?


19 posted on 11/12/2018 5:02:32 PM PST by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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To: Zhang Fei

For some reason, I have been given free subscriptions to 3 different car magazines. Until I began reading them I knew almost nothing about the later model cars.

One thing which surprised me is Hyundai is now one of the most reliable brands. They were once one of the worst.


20 posted on 11/12/2018 5:03:01 PM PST by yarddog
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