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To: chief lee runamok
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Crystal clear. For once Paul Ryan is right, change the 14th Amendment.

67 posted on 10/30/2018 1:51:11 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Illegals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and therefore not subject to the 14th Ammendment!


77 posted on 10/30/2018 2:01:48 PM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Snickering Hound
Now it's been a while since my last English class but I doubt that the rules have changed much.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
What's that part "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" about?

Could it mean that:

children born to foreign parents that owe their allegiance to some other nation are NOT actually "subject to the jurisdiction thereof",

essentially nullifying the predicate of the sentence which is "are citizens of the United States?"

Additionally since non-citizens do not legally reside in any particular state, does that not also further exclude those individuals from citizenship?

I don't think an executive order is necessary or even required,

just some sort of note or even a tweet clarifying the POTUS opinion on the matter is more than sufficient for me.

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88 posted on 10/30/2018 2:19:08 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: Snickering Hound
It is not crystal clear. It is quite muddled in a way that it didn't need to be had they kept the original language. Ryan is not correct. The 14th was never intended to make citizens out of transient aliens. If you read the debates on the 14th amendment, John Bingham, chief author of the 14th amendment, makes it clear that the children of anyone who is a subject to a foreign power do not qualify.
98 posted on 10/30/2018 2:32:05 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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