Posted on 10/27/2018 7:17:20 AM PDT by reaganaut1
Our children arent being taught to read in ways that line up with what scientists have discovered about how people actually learn.
Its a problem that has been hiding in plain sight for decades. According to the National Assessment of Educational Progress, more than six in 10 fourth graders arent proficient readers. It has been this way since testing began. A third of kids cant read at a basic level.
How do we know that a big part of the problem is how children are being taught? Because reading researchers have done studies in classrooms and clinics, and theyve shown over and over that virtually all kids can learn to read if theyre taught with approaches that use what scientists have discovered about how the brain does the work of reading. But many teachers dont know this science.
What have scientists figured out? First of all, while learning to talk is a natural process that occurs when children are surrounded by spoken language, learning to read is not. To become readers, kids need to learn how the words they know how to say connect to print on the page. They need explicit, systematic phonics instruction. There are hundreds of studies that back this up.
But talk to teachers and many will tell you they learned something different about how children learn to read in their teacher preparation programs. Jennifer Rigney-Carroll, who completed a masters degree in special education in 2016, told me she was taught that children read naturally if they have access to books. Jessica Root, an intervention specialist in Ohio, said she learned you want to get children excited about what theyre reading, find books that theyre interested in, and just read, read, read. Kathy Bast, an elementary school principal in Pennsylvania, learned the same thing.
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“oppositional defiance syndrome”
OMG.
Yep.
Learned to read at home before kindergarten.
Then Pud & Zip the frogs,
Then on to the big box of SRA cards.
Nostalgia . . .
Yes, the public schools refuse to use phonics to teach a phonetic language. This is by design, they don't want your kids to actually be educated. They want your kids to be endoctrinated.
Frankfurt School - excellent connection you made
Reading isn’t hard. Turning it into a complicated matter is retarded.
I am very series.
Turning it into a complicated matter is retarded.
Not when you (teachers, NEA, socialists, progressives) want our kids to be functionally illiterate.
The NYTimes published this? Maybe they realized this particular liberal policy has cut into the market of actual readers—their prospect pool—in the US, especially.
Frankfurt School where political correctness, sensitivity training and concensus building were incubated.
What I meant by “correct and relearn” is that my understanding of phonics is the kids are supposed to figure out how to spell a word by sounding it out. As goofy as English spelling is?
Perhaps my understanding of foniks is inkoreck?
Seriously, I am happy to be wrong here. I associated this with the method from a few years ago when they said the correct answer wasn’t as important as how you arrived there, and as long as you really tried, that was all that mattered. I do tend to be a bit cynical.
Basically, they both WANTED to read, they wanted to learn the things online that interested them. I was surprised, they hardly went through that "See Dick run" phase, it was fast.
So, using the word 'phonics', what two sounds does the letter 'p' have ?
What does 'phonics' say about -I before E except after C, except for certain words which you will have to look up and just memorize because they don't fit the rule ?
Pick up a set of McGuffey Readers. See if your child is reading at the levels suggested.
But in defense of today’s teachers (and I confess to being a retired teacher)back in the 1800s most weren’t expected to complete 8th grade. Only the best and brightest made it that far and the best of them went on to high school. Those with no aptitude for school dropped out (in today’s language) and started their adult lives.
Today schools are in place for a couple of reasons. Of course to educate those who are willing and able to be educated, but also to warehouse (keep off of the street) those who aren’t or can’t. In many schools the second group makes up the large majority of the student body. Teachers in those kinds of schools are basically baby sitters who are just putting their time in. It may not be what they intended when they began their careers, but it is what happens to them. Year after year of hostile, proud ignorance will do that.
I have a question. Do other nations, with non-English speaking people, use PHONICS ?
My grandson was reading at a mid second grade level when he finished third grade. He goes to a school supposedly in the best elementary school district in Arizona.
Over the summer Mr RooRoo and I took grandson to a private reading and math tutoring clinic. He was tutored 8 hours per week during the summer and goes for 2 hours per week now that hes back in school. He is now reading at midyear 4th grade level.
Weve spent over $5 thousand so far on the reading clinic, but its been worth every penny. Daughter cant afford the $100 per session, shes a single mom. We will continue to pay for grandsons reading tutoring for as long as possible.
I went to all public schools in the 60s to early 70s. I believe I received a very good education. I remember phonics and vocabulary were heavily emphasized. At the end of 5th grade I took the usual annual Stanford Acheivement tests. My mom told me that as a 5th grader I was reading at a 12th grade level. When she read the tests results, I remember she spoke quietly with a proud smile on her face. Happy memory.
Like EVERYTHING ELSE, the more you practice, the better you get.
Fonix - thuh wei 2 a-tak wurdz.
Have people not noticed the degradation of words in text messages? And cursive adds yet another dimension to associating sounds with text, that too is being phased out of all learning.
Start reading as soon is the child can sit-up....start with picture books..
then move up ...your child will be reading by three years or less...plus will develop a better memory...
do it at night before bed time....
my wife was a first second teacher worked every time for as...even worked on a foster child we only had her six months...started with her when she was eighteen months old..
They should tell this to every mother when she leaves the hospital
A corollary to this is that New York State recently passed a law that government school teachers had to take yearly literacy test. The law was quickly rescinded when 50% of the Hispanic and 60% of the black teachers failed it.
In other words, the state of New York is knowingly putting a large number of illiterate teachers into government schools.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/13/nyregion/ny-regents-teacher-exams-alst.html
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