Posted on 10/27/2018 4:18:15 AM PDT by reaganaut1
Cesar Sayoc was arrested by federal authorities in Florida on Friday morning and charged with crimes related to sending 13 apparently homemade pipe bombs to high-profile Democrats. None of them detonated, but the FBI says the bombs indeed contained explosive material. Sayoc may well have meant to kill George Soros, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Cory Booker, and others.
Sayoc does not appear to be severely mentally ill, like other perpetrators of high-profile crimes in our country in recent years, but he is a kooky and fringe character. He sports a long and bizarre arrest record, one of the reasons authorities were able to identify him so quickly as the alleged perpetrator. He had previously been arrested on a separate charge of threatening to bomb a utility company and appears to have been a petty dealer of illegal supplements. A 2012 bankruptcy report showed him living with his mother.
Sayoc was a registered Republican and, the evidence suggests, an obsessive Trump supporter. A van believed to be his is emblazoned with Trump stickers, his social-media feeds contain attacks on the Democratic party often shared from fringe websites, and he apparently attended a Trump rally in Florida months ago.
Of course, even before Sayoc was identified, the media and the Left were blaming President Trump for the bombs. We’ve said it many times before, but it has to be said again: Harsh, overheated rhetoric is endemic to our political system, and it should not be confused with incitement to violence. When James Hodgkinson, a registered Democrat who campaigned for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 election, attempted to assassinate a group of Republican congressmen at a baseball practice last June, we did not blame Sanders or Hodgkinson’s party. Instead, we wrote, “The person singly responsible for Wednesday’s horrors is the man who pulled the trigger.” Here, too, the responsibility for Sayoc’s bombing campaign rests with him alone.
The double standard in these cases is flagrant. Even though Republican majority whip Steve Scalise was nearly killed in the Hodgkinson attack and more than a dozen of his colleagues could have been killed but for security neutralizing Hodgkinson, the event was quickly memory-holed and the media didn’t resound with calls for Bernie Sanders, or, say, Rachel Maddow, to tone it down.
Not that these incidents bring out the best in either side. Some of our friends on the right rushed to deem the sending of the pipe bombs a hoax, with no evidence but an abundance of paranoia.
What can we ask of our politicians? First and foremost, that they condemn all forms of violence and intimidation, running from the dastardly crime of the last few days, to the street-fighting of antifa and the Proud Boys, to the hounding of high-profile political figures in public spaces. With some prominent exceptions, almost no elected officials openly endorse this behavior. No matter how intense our political debates, Republicans and Democrats are still far from sanctioning violence against one another.
As for rhetoric, we make wide latitude for stinging insults and hyperbolic rhetoric, which go back at least to the 1790s in this country. But it’d be better if everyone felt some responsibility to edify rather than degrade our discourse. This, of course, applies to Donald Trump. Contrary to his critics, chants of “Lock her up” and “CNN sucks” aren’t calls to violence. No rational person would hear even his most incendiary line — the media are “enemies of the people” — as permission to mail a dozen pipe bombs all over the country. But Trump is president, which should imply an obligation to honor guardrails about what he says about his fellow citizens. He should never, to take an example from a recent rally, talk lightly of a Republican congressman’s body-slamming a reporter.
We are very glad that no one was hurt by the pipe bombs, and that Sayoc was apprehended quickly. These are things everyone is grateful for, because, even if we seem to forget it at times, we are all still Americans.
Yes, and I think that is the point of the attack. The attack was the ultimate form of harassment which was called for by Maxine Waters and others who received bombs. Maxine was sent two fake bombs to taste her own medicine. The guy probably thinks that was fair. He is a nutjob, but there is some logic to his target selection.
The other advantage of getting the entire media to focus on this is that it gets the attention off the ricin letter arrest a couple days ago.
everyone at FR is familiar with:
Updated: Rap Sheet: ***613** Acts of Media-Approved Violence and Harassment Against Trump Supporters
It is open season on Trump supporters, and the media is only fomenting, encouraging, excusing, and hoping for more…
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-acts-of-media-approved-violence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/
everyone knows the MSM allows threats to the President to be written about or broadcast almost daily - by Dem politicians, Deep State actors (Brennan for example), celebrities, pundits etc. indeed, the MSM has encouraged an atmosphere of violence ever since Donald Trump became President and they don’t intend stopping now.
FR had a thread on the following earlier today (read for what Sayoc allegedly tweeted to Ritchie on 11 Oct, as it’s not possible to copy):
26 Oct: Law & Crime: Cesar Sayoc Was Reported for Threatening Behavior, But Twitter Apparently ‘Didn’t Find it That Serious’
by Alberto Luperon; Matt Naham contributed to this article.
Rochelle Ritchie, a former spokeswoman for the U.S. Congress and the Baltimore State’s Attorney’s Office, said Friday that she recently reported accused bomb suspect Cesar Sayoc of threatening her on Twitter. The company’s “bs response”: No violation was found...
TWEET: Rochelle Ritchie: Hey @Twitter remember when I reported the guy who was making threats towards me after my appearance on @FoxNews and you guys sent back a bs response about how you didn’t find it that serious. Well guess what it’s the guy who has been sending #bombs to high profile politicians!!!!
27 October 2018
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/cesar-sayoc-was-reported-for-threatening-behavior-but-twitter-apparently-didnt-find-it-that-serious/
time-wise, it seems the Fox appearance was the following:
11 Oct: Fox News: Will Democratic leaders address violent rhetoric?
This is a rush transcript from “The Ingraham Angle,” October 10, 2018. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
Joining me now is Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and author of the new book, “Spygate.” And also joining me is Rochelle Ritchie, former press secretary for the House Democrats. Rochelle, let’s start with you. What will the Democratic response be if something horrific happens because of the anger and the frenzy, both congresswomen, senators and others are either tacitly encouraging or actually encouraging with their words?
ROCHELLE RITCHIE, FORMER HOUSE DEMOCRAT PRESS SECRETARY: Well, Laura, you know, you mentioned that someone might be killed as a result of what we’re hearing coming from the left, but I want to say that someone already has been killed as a result of what’s coming from the right and that’s Heather Heyer.
And really the hypocrisy that we’re seeing coming from Republicans right now is killing objective thinking. The inability of the GOP to think objectively and to hold themselves to the same accord as they hold everyone else is literally like a plague that is spreading throughout our politics. If we think that people that banging on the doors of the Supreme Court aimlessly, you know, it was kind of ridiculous I will admit, but if we think those people are a mob then we should also think that people that — ...
ROCHELLE RITCHIE: ...But also, keep in mind that Congressman Cleaver was actually spat on during the Tea Party Movement from people who were angry about ObamaCare. So that —
DAN BONGINO, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Yes. I just want to note that what Rochelle just did is really gross and I want to call her out for that immediately. What happened to Ms. Heyer in Charlottesville — I didn’t interrupt you. I’d appreciate it if you let me speak. It’s the right thing to do. We are trying to be civil, correct. OK, thank you...
BONGINO: What you did was grotesque. What you did was quite gross. The Republicans, Donald Trump and conservatives have absolutely nothing to do with a deranged murdering maniac who runs a woman over in Charlottesville. That is gross. President Trump denounced that immediately and you bringing that up in the context of this is disgusting...
BONGINO: The point is what you’re doing is you didn’t answer the question. You distracted everybody by going to Charlottesville, which the Republicans denounced. And then you had to fabricate another one, that Cleaver was spit on. He was not spit on, you are making that up...
https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/will-democratic-leaders-address-violent-rhetoric
I saw that program and Ritchie was infuriating. did Cesar Sayoc prepare the devices following this program? where & when did he purchase the envelopes and other materials?
i’m NOT excusing the sending of any real or fake bombs, but the MSM is pointing fingers of blame at the President, when they need to point them AT THEMSELVES.
meanwhile, MSM is willing to continue with the Nazi slurs:
26 Oct: NBC Miami: South Florida Man Arrested in Connection With Nationwide Mail Bombs Scare
Neighbors in the area of Hollywood Beach described seeing Sayoc pull up to the beach with the garishly decorated van and use the public shower almost every morning.
“We called him the ‘Trump Nazi,’” one man told NBC 6. “He was just a scary guy. He didn’t really speak to anybody.”...
FBI agents were seen inside the Auto Zone in Plantation, but an Auto Zone spokesperson said Sayoc was not an employee and was just shopping in the store...
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Person-in-Custody-in-South-Florida-in-Connection-With-Suspicious-Packages-498670491.html
26 Oct: NBC: Some mailed pipe bombs could have been duds, investigators say
At least some of the explosives in the wave of pipe bombs mailed to prominent figures could not have exploded, several investigators said.
By Jonathan Dienst, Tom Winter, Pete Williams and Daniella Silva
At least some of the devices found in the wave of suspected pipe bombs mailed to prominent political and media figures had no possibility of exploding — because they contained flaws in the way they were made, several investigators told NBC News on Thursday, based on early analysis.
In a few cases, the flaws were substantial, the investigators said. In others, the defects were more subtle. But there’s still no way to know at this point whether the deficiencies were intentional — to make convincing hoaxes — or simply the result of bad design or construction, the sources said.
The investigation’s analysis is far from complete, as some devices have yet to be analyzed in any kind of detail...
Each bomb also contained powder from a low explosive or a pyrotechnic, as in fireworks, they said...
MSNBC senior law enforcement analyst Bill Bratton, who led the police departments in Boston, New York and Los Angeles, told MSNBC on Thursday that the FBI had a number of devices that it would be “in a position to disassemble to determine their functionality.”
“Were they ever intended to actually function, and if so, how, in terms of how were they supposed to be detonated?” he asked.
“If not, well, then, that changes the focus from trying to cause bodily harm to effectively creating fear,” he said...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/some-mailed-pipe-bombs-could-have-been-duds-investigators-say-n924516
Freedom_2_ADM wrote:
This was a false flag op. I believe someone with running agents skills manipulated this psycho. Either CIA or FBI trained case officer likely was behind this.
Sayoc’s life-long friend works for the CIA. Just sayin’...
wastoute wrote:
Oswald 2.0
I hope that Jack Ruby 2.0 doesn’t suddenly appear.
Why is the FBI and the DOJ being so coy instead of just coming out and saying “It was a pipe filled with black power or C4 or Composite D” etc?
Could it be because if DOJ and the NY Cops tell the truth, instead of obfuscating, the whole thing takes on a Keystone Kops air and totally deflates the “crisis” narrative?
But don't try to get the Never Trump infantile posse to do a honest job of reporting on this. Their lips are far firmly pressed to the Clown Media's ass to do any real journalism.
A pipe stuffed full of match heads is “filled with energetic material” and “can be set off by friction”
Why is the FBI and the DOJ being so coy instead of just coming out and saying “It was a pipe filled with black power or C4 or Composite D” etc?
Could it be because if DOJ and the NY Cops tell the truth, instead of obfuscating, the whole thing takes on a Keystone Kops air and totally deflates the “crisis” narrative?
“but the FBI says the bombs indeed contained explosive material”
actually, i heard FBI Directory Wray live on TV yesterday saying the devices contained “energetic material” ... could have been match-heads for all we know ...
“energetic material,”
I wonder what THIS is?
MythBusters used Gummy Bears to launch a rocket...
https://www.google.com/search?q=MythBusters+used+Gummy+Bears+to+launch+a+rocket...&ie=&oe=
Also interesting that they used the word “combust” rather than “explode”. I’d be willing to bet it was match heads.
Partisan Media Shills LIE, because they are A) regurgitating DNC talking points, and B) they are LIARS.
Flour if dispersed into the air as a fine powder is highly explosive.
It fits the description of the active ingredient in these none working bombs.
My bet is a safety flare stuffed into the pipe. Zero chance for any explosion or even a fire. The clock and wire was just to make it look like a bomb
Maybe so. A flare fits their weasel description too and would’ve been less work for the maker. OTOH, it seems like most flares are about a foot long and the “bombs” don’t look that big in the pics.
This was a lame attempt to win the midterms. This Sayoc guy is probably a stooge paid by the Deep State to be arrested and jailed.
A few weeks after his "trial" and "conviction", after the dust settles, he will be quietly "transferred" from prison to get his identity-changing surgery.
Newly unrecognizable, he will be set free, and given a good payoff...paid annually to keep his mouth shut.
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In the ensuing months, government will claim he had become ill and died.
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So is fine sawdust.
I was refinishing a floor in a house and we had a roaring fire in the fireplace as there was no heating unit installed yet.
When emptying the dust bag from the floor sander; I wonder how the dust would burn.
Grabbing a handful; I threw it into the flames.
With a big WHOOSH! the stuff ignited and blew back into the room quite impressively!
It was the great-grand-daughter of all bombs.
Good point. But something along those lines. All the words they are using suggest something that burns not booms
Pipe Bombs made Plastic Pipe that will not hold explosive pressure is like making Condoms out of Paper Mache.
He should have gone the tried and True Boston Marathon Bombers Pressure Cooker route.
Of course, even that would still require using an Explosive Material with a Real Timer and Actuator, things that we still haven’t heard the Government Investigators admit that any of the Fake Bombs contained.
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