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How will Democrats do in the midterms — and 2020? Richard Nixon's 1972 re-election may offer clues
nbcnews ^ | 10/23/2018 | Keith Koffler

Posted on 10/24/2018 6:18:02 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

With the midterms mere weeks away, Democrats are already preparing to invoke the era of Richard M. Nixon and Watergate. Anticipating a "blue wave" that will retake the House in November, they have started laying out plans for impeachment proceedings — or at least serious investigations with that goal in mind.

But the Democrats’ political positions, combined with their actions during and in the wake of the confirmation hearings for now-Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s U.S. Supreme Court nomination, suggest a different Nixon-era touchstone: his 1972 landslide re-election.

The actions of Democrats in 1972 helped propel a Republican president originally brought into office by the closest of margins in 1968, supported by Americans who feared their way of life was under assault by potentially violent leftists.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 1972; 2018midterms; 2020; 2020demprimary; democrats; nixon; trump2020

1 posted on 10/24/2018 6:18:02 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

President Trump. Now more than ever.


2 posted on 10/24/2018 6:20:46 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: ChicagoConservative27

...Americans who feared their way of life was under assault by potentially violent leftists.

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Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.


3 posted on 10/24/2018 6:22:58 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: ChicagoConservative27
...a Republican president originally brought into office by the closest of margins in 1968,

This always seems to be mentioned re: 1968 and it just isn't true.

the popular vote was close. The electoral vote was 301-191.
4 posted on 10/24/2018 6:25:42 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The reason the 1968 race was so close was that George Wallace ran. Nixon’s vote in 1972 was largely a combination of those who voted for him in 1968, those who voted for Wallace in 1968, and some Humphrey voters who were repelled by McGovern’s positions. Of course there were also a lot of boomers who were eligible to vote in 1972 (with the new 18-year-old minimum age) who were too young to vote in 1968.


5 posted on 10/24/2018 6:26:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ChicagoConservative27

To be exact, make that electoral vote 301-191-46


6 posted on 10/24/2018 6:27:36 AM PDT by stylin19a ( Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nixon abandoned too many Senate and House GOP to concentrate on his landslide
Nixon was a real loser
One of our worst presidents


7 posted on 10/24/2018 6:30:13 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: oblomov
. . . Americans who feared their way of life was under assault by potentially violent leftists.

Potentially might have been the right word in 1972. They made a lot of noise and broke a lot of stuff.

In 2018, the reality is that they are violent. We have seen it outside of Trump rallies, at a congressional baseball practice, the Kavanaugh hearing room halls and more. These people don't just disagree with us, they are insane and want to kill us.

Most of them don't even appreciate that the go-go economy produced by Trumpanomics has given them even more to loot. Their cushy earnings in media, entertainment, academia and law are still not only intact but growing. A return to the gutter days of Obamanomics would hurt them even worse than the rest of us because our side produces the goods and services people actually need. Theirs, by and large, does not.

8 posted on 10/24/2018 6:31:05 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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Nixon abandoned too many Senate and House GOP to concentrate on his landslide . . .

Compare and contrast said egotistical jerk with Ronald Reagan in 1984 who was merely one or two Minnesota visits short of a 50 state sweep in 1984 because he thought it more important to help keep or grow those congressional seats.

As it was, he made only one Minnesota visit by planning a fueling stop in Rochester on the way home to California on election eve. A shift of less than 3,000 votes statewide would have won him Minnesota's 10 electoral votes as well.

9 posted on 10/24/2018 6:36:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The demonkkkRATs will get slaughtered in the coming midterms, and POTUS Trump will be easily re-elected, IF he gets the immigration disaster under control.


10 posted on 10/24/2018 6:54:15 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: uncbob

LLoyd Doggett, in Texas says the first thing the House will do if they win is to demand Trump’s tax returns. He’s up for reelection this time. I believe it’s San Antonio. Get out and vote against this crap.


11 posted on 10/24/2018 7:31:58 AM PDT by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ticket splitting was rampant in 1972. There were quite a number incumbent GOP Senators (or well known Republicans running for Senate seats) who went down in flames, including one who lost to a nobody named Joe Biden. It’s possible that because of the Watergate break in that people went to the polls definitely wanting Nixon over McGovern, but not trusting him and his party with political majorities. Bear in mind also that Southern Democrats were still a powerful entity in Congress.


12 posted on 10/24/2018 7:50:25 AM PDT by tellw (ed)
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13 posted on 10/24/2018 8:22:48 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: uncbob
Nixon abandoned too many Senate and House GOP to concentrate on his landslide Nixon was a real loser One of our worst Republican presidents
Care to name the Democrat presidents who weren’t worse?

14 posted on 10/24/2018 3:55:36 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Nixon and Kissinger dragged China into the 20th century

Started that stupid DETENTE with the Russians

Blew the Vietnam war

How is that for starters


15 posted on 10/24/2018 5:39:48 PM PDT by uncbob
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Blew the Vietnam war
Johnson did that. The subsequent Nixon Admin tried to undo that, but it was baked in the cake.

Plenty wrong with the Nixon Administration, but you have to understand that the Democrats were in the middle of a forty year run in the House, and only in 1980 did the Republicans win the Senate majority for the first time since 1952. Nixon could only dream of a Republican majority in even one house of Congress.

Johnson lost Vietnam, and created the “Great Society” domestic disaster which still haunts the country. Carter left a legacy of disaster which Reagan countered by

. . . which Carter had made to seem impossible.

That leaves Slick Willie and Husein O. I’m not seeing a one of them who wasn’t worse than Nixon.


16 posted on 10/24/2018 6:57:21 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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After piddling around for years Nixon FINALLY instituted Operation Rolling thunder
Had the B52s bombing the north into oblivion—mined Haiphong Harbor —Got a Peace Treaty signed and the POWS back

He could have done that A WEEK after he was sworn in and saved tens of thousands of lives
And there would have been years of peace with the south beefing up their defenses etc etc before Watergate


17 posted on 10/25/2018 4:28:25 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

First of all, you’re acting like Nixon had the full backing of the House and Senate, which, let’s face it, he really didn’t have (as another person pointed out, Republicans didn’t even constitute a slight majority until Reagan, and certainly didn’t become an overwhelming majority until the 1994 Republican Revolution). Heck, Trump’s already having a LOT of trouble building the wall regarding Congressional Democrats having tantrums. Do you really think Democrats would have obeyed Nixon if he tried to do that in his first week?

Second of all, he actually WON the Vietnam War. There’s even a Prager University video making this very explicit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYGHZCJwk He did exactly the things you said he should have done. What happened was that radical leftists emboldened by Watergate swept through the House and Senate via landslide votes and broke the deal America initiated in the first place. He certainly did a LOT better with Vietnam than LBJ did, or heck, even JFK did.

Sure, Nixon might not be our greatest president or even one of our best presidents (him making that deal with China was a mistake, for one thing. I won’t touch the EPA bit because that bit unfortunately WAS necessary if you look at the Charles River at the time. Drinking from that would require your stomach being pumped, that’s how bad it was before Nixon did the EPA.). But he still was the main reason we won Vietnam (or at least, would have won it had the Democrats not stabbed us in the back). And in any case, he’s still a heck of a lot better than Carter, Clinton, and Obama were.


18 posted on 01/10/2019 6:23:48 AM PST by otness_e
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