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United Nations: From a good idea to a bad idea
wnd.com ^ | 10/24/2018 | Bill Federer

Posted on 10/24/2018 5:32:54 AM PDT by rktman

The United Nations officially began Oct. 24, 1945. Its name was coined by President Franklin Roosevelt.

The United Nations was created to prevent future wars. Unfortunately, there have been nearly 150 wars with over 100 million casualties from the day the United Nations’ charter was drafted in the Garden Room of San Francisco’s Fairmont Hotel:

5 in Central Asia 11 in South Asia 20 in Southeast Asia 13 in Eastern Europe 23 in the Middle East 25 in Latin and South America 50 in Africa

The Secretary-General at the United Nations Charter Conference in 1945 was Alger Hiss. Alger Hiss was present at the Yalta Conference, Feb. 4-11, 1945, where a large portion of Europe was put under the control of the Soviet Union. Alger Hiss was later accused and convicted of being a Communist agent in publicized 1948 trial.

The person who accused Alger Hiss was a former Soviet spy Whittaker Chambers.Soviet spy Whittaker Chambers had been senior editor of Time magazine before defecting to the United States authorities.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: corruptyugely; useless
Good idea? Maybe on a scratch pad someplace.
1 posted on 10/24/2018 5:32:54 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Or a sophomore dorm room after a dozen bong hits.


2 posted on 10/24/2018 5:38:01 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

;-)


3 posted on 10/24/2018 5:41:48 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

The UN morphed into a piggy bank for its crooked leaders and finally into the UM...United Muslims.


4 posted on 10/24/2018 5:55:40 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: rktman

It was never a good idea...just a front for a scam.


5 posted on 10/24/2018 5:56:07 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: rktman

The presumption is that it was a “good” idea, ... I am not so sure.

Mid-wifed by Wilson, its became an obsession with FDR, so much so that he gave away the store to the Russians, who outsmarted him especially at Yalta in his declining health. As I study more of this, I am tending to think FDR would have been outsmarted if he were in robust health. He was delusional to think if the UK and US could assure the Russians that we had good intentions and they would be secure after the war, they would just settle the geopolitical map according to FDR charismatic wishes.

UN has been a failure overall, and I formed that opinion at age 20 when I paid my own money and toured it. When I walked into the building, I had a positive view of it because of youthful ignorance based on UNICEF. Since then, as I have gained knowledge, my impression formed at age 20 still stands - it is useless.


6 posted on 10/24/2018 5:57:09 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Evolution is the long term solution to Global Warming. So let's party while we can!)
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Solzhenitsyn said it shouldn’t be called the “United Nations”, because the peoples of the world weren’t represented there, but the “United Governments”.

(IE, the peoples of East Europe weren’t really represented by their soviet-client governments).

And DeGaulle noted that the General Assembly will simply attack the West because its factions (islamic, etc.) will outnumber the western countries. Hence, beware of giving it any moral authority.

But we didn’t listen...


7 posted on 10/24/2018 6:00:45 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: rktman

League of Nations —> United Nations, any attempt at a world government was and is never a good idea. We are saddled with the damned thing in our time, but I wish we could dump the whole monstrosity.


8 posted on 10/24/2018 6:03:06 AM PDT by Avalon Memories ( Proud Deplorable. Proud born-in-the-USA American Dreamer.)
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Yup. I was thinking that it seems like an updated POS League of Nations. Some folks learned from that. Others, not so much.


9 posted on 10/24/2018 6:11:10 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: CondorFlight

So true. To your point on eastern EU, the US and UK made an issue (behind closed doors of course) with the Russians on the Yalta requirement for democratic and representative governments in eastern EU after the war. Molotov and then Stalin outsmarted them in the end.

It’s not that we didn’t listen, FDR and subsequently Truman wanted the UN so badly to “keep the peace and security” after the war they eventually gave up a lot to get it. It also didn’t help that they rapidly decommissioned the US armed forces very soon after the war, thinking “the bomb” (i.e. the gun behind the door) would give them leverage. But then the US proposed early in Truman’s term to have a special UN commission on atomic policy to establish standards for international exchange of atomic information. Yepp, we used the UN to help undermine US interest all by ourselves too.


10 posted on 10/24/2018 6:21:36 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Evolution is the long term solution to Global Warming. So let's party while we can!)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Wilson’s obsession with the LON blinded him to the abuse of post-WWI Germany by England and France, laying the seeds for WWII.


11 posted on 10/24/2018 6:22:05 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

You got that right. Perhaps you were thinking of their crushing reparations as revenge, which then they got the US to help pay for through the 1920s bond market just so the UK and FR could repay their WWI loans to us. In Trumps words, the US makes bad deals with all these countries, and in this case... the seeds of WWI were planted.


12 posted on 10/24/2018 6:32:08 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Evolution is the long term solution to Global Warming. So let's party while we can!)
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To: rktman

So much globalism, cronyism, grifting and anti-Westernism in the UN, the fact that we are a member deeply insults me.


13 posted on 10/24/2018 7:58:01 AM PDT by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
It was Wilson acceding to the crushing reparations in exchange for England/France supporting Wilson's "League of Nations".

Had no idea about the bond market BS...

14 posted on 10/24/2018 9:25:39 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

Wilson was the worst President, ever.


15 posted on 10/24/2018 9:26:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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