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The Caravan Is a Challenge to the Integrity of U.S. Borders
The Atlantic ^ | October 23, 2018 | David Frum

Posted on 10/23/2018 10:54:51 AM PDT by conservative98

If Trump’s opponents stand opposed to policing America’s boundaries, they will not help immigrants—they will only lose votes.

DAVID FRUM 10:32 AM ET

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For Trump’s opponents, the caravan represents a trap. Has Trump’s radical nativism so counter-radicalized them that they have internalized the caravan message against any border enforcement at all? If yes, they will not help immigrants. They will only marginalize themselves—and American politics will follow the European path in which anti-immigration parties of the extreme right cannibalize the political center.

If liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals will not do. I’ve been pounding the drum for this warning since the European migration crisis accelerated in 2013. The warning holds as true as ever—and now it’s coming home.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caravan; dadvidfrum; davidfrum; democrats; frumisaloser; hondurascaravan; illegalsinvasion; noborders; trump; trumpwasright
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To: cuban leaf

Yes, they are being transported, there are pictures on other threads of it. Although I lack the evidence to state it as fact, I believe this is all organized to influence the elections.


21 posted on 10/23/2018 11:21:07 AM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: conservative98

Like preparing for a Hurricane, the Trump Administration will be prepared. They won’t let it be a politcal hot potato, even though Jorge Ramos pitches a hissy fit.


22 posted on 10/23/2018 11:21:28 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: goldstategop

Never Trumper David Frum wakes up about border integrity. This is too rich for words.
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Exactly. And I forgive you for stealing my intended post.

The fact that Frum sees the danger that faces the left due the border issues is actually a huge (but satisfying) surprise to me. With respect to Frum I’ve previously operated on the “Once an Idiot, Always an Idiot” rule.


23 posted on 10/23/2018 11:27:02 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. A)
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To: conservative98

Frum essentially recommends the usual subterfuge, of appearing to support border security, until after the election.

Apparently, many are so out of touch, that they need reminding.


24 posted on 10/23/2018 11:28:44 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: cuban leaf
How can you move that many people, that fast, all the way across Mexico?

When the cameras are on, they walk. Otherwise, it's motorized transportation, all the way!

25 posted on 10/23/2018 11:30:48 AM PDT by JPG (MAGA)
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To: conservative98

Cpt. f-ing obvious alert!


26 posted on 10/23/2018 11:35:39 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: conservative98

Frump is a never-Trumper clown. The fact that he is trying to save the Leftards from total political destruction does not mean he should ever be respected or taken seriously.


27 posted on 10/23/2018 11:37:10 AM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: JoSixChip

“They will be at our boarder this time next week, count on it.”

They will become boarders after they cross our border.


28 posted on 10/23/2018 11:40:33 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: conservative98
"Has Trump’s radical nativism..."

Wow, wanting to protect American and MAGA is now radical nativism. Seems this country needs a major purge.

29 posted on 10/23/2018 11:42:03 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: conservative98

Line up the back-hoes. Dig a trench 8 feet wide and 12 feet deep. Line one side with grave markers. Maybe they'll get the message.


30 posted on 10/23/2018 11:43:54 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: goldstategop

David Frum, pffft...

Welcome to the party, pal.


31 posted on 10/23/2018 11:44:12 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: kjam22

obamma already armed em once..oh forgot they already killed folks


32 posted on 10/23/2018 2:00:19 PM PDT by aces
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To: conservative98

Europe deja vu?


33 posted on 10/23/2018 3:38:42 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: JoSixChip

Do the math: How are they gonna travel in excess of 1000 miles in 14 days?


34 posted on 10/23/2018 3:40:03 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Taxman
Do the math: How are they gonna travel in excess of 1000 miles in 14 days?

Combustion engine vehicles. There are pictures in other threads of them already ridding on trucks. The whole point of this is to create video of women with children crying.
35 posted on 10/23/2018 3:48:55 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: JoSixChip; All

I believe this is all organized to influence the elections.

Of course it is. However, with the news of more ‘caravans’ being launched from other countries this could morph into a real mass movement of would be damp Americans to try and flood the border. It is now fall the weather is cool and many many many form south of the border may see this as a great opportunity to get into the land of the Big BX.


36 posted on 10/23/2018 4:34:26 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: goldstategop

Why would a Canadian like Frum care about the integrity of US borders? Those Hondurans are not going to end up in Toronto.


37 posted on 10/23/2018 4:54:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: JoSixChip

How many vehicles do they need for 7000 - 14000 people?

They will not get to the border in time to affect the mid-terms.

Well, they have already affected the outcome, but not how Soros et al planned it - Trump Wins Again!


38 posted on 10/23/2018 6:41:12 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Taxman
They will not get to the border in time to affect the mid-terms

I'll bet you $1000 they are at the boarder at least two days before the elections. If you are so confident, take my bet. I will find a internet service to host the bet, hell we could use PayPal.
39 posted on 10/23/2018 6:58:02 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: JoSixChip

I’m not going to take your bet.


40 posted on 10/24/2018 4:01:20 AM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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