Posted on 10/23/2018 5:29:51 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
RUSH: Here is Mike in Youngstown, Ohio. Getting a call in here the first hour. Welcome, sir. How are you?
CALLER: Good. Good, Rush. And I hope you and your family's all doing good. Listen. I think this has all the makings of a bad setup for Trump because of the optics. I don't care if he militarizes the border, if they bum-rush the border like they did on the southern side of Mexico where they tried to stop 'em; what's our military supposed to do? Break out batons or water hoses or tear gas? That's just gonna look so bad that Trump is gonna take the brunt of it. What he needs to do is call the House and the Senate back into emergency session and do a national address. And put everybody's butt on the line. Not just try a tad deal with this himself.
RUSH: So bring 'em back in for a special session to do what? Pass legislation specifically saying that this mob of 7,000 can't come in?
CALLER: Something of that sort. I mean --
RUSH: You think Trump needs to share the burden of providing the obstacle that if Trump sends the military down and they start cracking heads and it looks bad for Trump?
CALLER: Exactly.
RUSH: So you think that's what the actual intention here is, the people who have planned the thing?
CALLER: Exactly. And that's where you can't try to deal with this on his own. He needs to put everybody else's butt on the line, get 'em on tape, on film, or whatever, what should we do. What would you like to do if they come across --
RUSH: I actually like that in a way, I like making Schumer and Pelosi stand up for letting these people in. Anyway, it's a good point. It's a... It's a... I don’t wanna say dangerous situation, but it is in whole lot of different ways.
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RUSH: So still lots to get to as the program unfolds before your very eyes and ears. Back to the caravan story 'cause we're not quite through with this. The thing that argues, again, for this being a Democrat Party operation or an operation intended to benefit the Democrat Party...
"AP Changes Headline After Liberals Complain About Describing Illegal Caravan as 'Army Of Migrants.'" That is the original AP story on this that enraged a bunch of leftists. "The Associated Press on Sunday changed a headline after a backlash from liberals furious at the AP for describing a caravan of illegal immigrants heading towards the United States as an 'army of migrants.' 'A ragged, growing army of migrants resumes march toward U.S.,' read the original headline on the AP story." [snip] -------------------------------
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RUSH: Wilton, Wilton in Macon, Georgia. Great to have you with us on the EIB Network. Hi.
CALLER: Thanks. The reason why I called, I spent all of the years in the military. I retired from the Marines, and although we are very good at a lot of things, we are not good at basically civilian type nonlethal warfare. We've gotten much better at it since Afghanistan and Iraq started, but that is one thing throughout the years we've not been good at. So this situation, and look, I'm 100% for putting the military on the border, but this one is perilous, and we have to be careful.
RUSH: Well, when you say the military's not prepared for an invasion, you're talking about... This is not a military invasion. You're talking about a human wave invasion of people that largely are gonna be thought of as starving, thirsty, poverty stricken, this kind of thing, simply demanding a better life. (impression) “Oh, my God. Let us in please!” The military is not used to standing up to people like that, certainly not inflicting harm on them. Is that what you're saying?
CALLER: Yeah. I think the difference is, you know, when it comes to lethality, we are very good at that. When it comes to less lethal, that's just not something we do that well. We have individual units that are very good at it, but that wouldn't be enough -----
RUSH: What about just the presence, here's U.S. military standing at the border, "You will not cross," okay? What happens then if they do? And --
CALLER: Therein lies the problem. That's the perilous part of the problem.
RUSH: Yeah, but you don't use bullets. You don't use bullets. What are the dummies called? I forget. You use some accuse force but not lethal.
CALLER: We have variety of different things to use, but, you know, all it takes is one person going down and squealing like a pig and then it's over, you know, we just have to fold up. I don't see anything good coming out of this, but the presence would be tremendous.
RUSH: But the presence would be... Okay. So there's... You think the military showing up is... Let me just put words in your mouth and you tell me if I'm right or wrong in interpreting you. You think the military showing up is a lose-lose Proposition?
CALLER: No, I think initially it's a great idea, but we have to be prepared for the next step.
RUSH: Well, but you say we can't take the next step because the next step is not it can't here as good at, they're not used to it. Don't know how to do it.
CALLER: Now that's the peril. By all means we have to be prepared politically and militarily.
RUSH: Well, then what is it? What's the preparation?
CALLER: We have to be prepared to use deadly force, I think.
RUSH: Okay. Well, let me give you a scenario, then.
CALLER: Okay.
RUSH: And I’m just doing this in interest of time. It may sound insensitive and I don't mean that. They hold the line, they hold the line, provide a visual presence, a visual obstruction. They send the signal, "Not welcome. Do not cross." There will be constant warnings, but somebody does and they have to shoot one or two.
CALLER: We have to shoot one... And I’ll tell ya, I bet you’d see lot of people would fall in line, probably wouldn’t push the issue anymore. I'm talking about members of the immigrants, the illegal aliens, but we'd have to be prepared to take that one or two. It's terrible, but that's what it takes --
RUSH: You don't think if one or two got hit that it would storm... Cause the mob to enrage, storm the military, just and essentially storm the bullets, storm the guns? You think they would ?cease and desist.
CALLER: I think they would cease and desist. I tell you, a lot of times tough guys have a tendency to fold up when they're met with equal strength or more. We just have to --
RUSH: But even if there is a casualty or two, the Drive-Bys have their story: Trump, military fires on harmless unharmed, hopeless people.
CALLER: And there's the peril.
RUSH: Yeah.
RUSH: Okay. So the alternative is to let 'em in.
CALLER: No. No. Have to hold the line. Like I said, somebody's... What is it the Democrats are always saying? "Somebody's gotta take one for the team, be willing to lay their lives down." Well let's see. It's unfortunate, but this is what they're taking on by taking on this caravan.
RUSH: Okay. Right. So the responsibility for what happens to them has to be on them. You think the media is gonna allow that? This is... Look, I can't start another thought 'cause I couldn't finish it.
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Soldier: "Recoil"
Rush’s screeners are usually smart enough to weed out the seminar calls.
I’m okay with dropping a moab on the lot of them
But that’s just me.
A real journalist would be asking these questions?
1. How much have you been paid to walk/ride with the caravan?
2. Where did you acquire the brand new colorful clothing, shoes, backpack, Iphone?
3. How many minutes are you actually walking per day and who is transporting you the rest of the time?
4. What did they say you were going to get once you got to the USA?
5. How will you feel when you are returned to Honduras or Guatemala?
“****The military should handle it like an emergency deployment of a Division overseas - a big logistics exercise for USTRANSCOM.****”
You can probably do this without declaring martial law. I love the idea of a logistics exercise. Even better would be a military exercise with a scenario that Honduras was attacked and we are sending 15,000 troops to support them.
Bring everyone through the gates in El Paso to Ft. Bliss. Have a few of our largest passenger aircraft available. Hopefully there is a place within Honduras that can support an aircraft that size. Figure it would take 50 trips at 300 per aircraft.
It takes four hours of flight time from El Paso to the airport in Honduras. Figure run a plane every two hours. Hour to load, four hours of flight time, hour to unload. Let the Honduran government deal with transporting them within the country. Not our problem.
Let’s figure each plane will take 12 hours round trip. A single aircraft running 50 trips would be 600 hours or 25 days. With four planes it would take six days. During the short time at Bliss, everyone is fingerprinted, sampled for DNA and photographed. Any single children arriving who say parents are in the US will have to provide addresses and phone numbers. Then we DNA the parents. If there is no match, that family in the US is also deported.
Keep single men for last. During that time same process continues, but with photos of all tattoos included. Have intelligence officers interviewing them. Gather all intelligence possible and if any one of them have been in the US before and have a criminal record, they spend the rest of their life in prison. Send them to a California prison so Moonbeam can pay for it.
Your idea is the best I’ve heard yet. I heartily agree. I don’t know the legalities but if the President can declare martial law at the border and thereby avoid the whole ‘Catch and Release’ idiocy we have most of the problem solved. And I would favor keeping martial law in effect until Congress does something about our border...starting with funding the wall and ending Catch and Release.
I have a solution.
When these illegal invaders come to the border, give them all MAGA HATS and US FLAGS.
I say set up a few MaDuce 5o’s at tbe boarder. That will turn tbem around.
It doesn’t have good “optics” when a cop arrests a criminal either.
“A real journalist would be asking these questions?”
That breed went extinct a good while ago.
Overwhelming our taxpayers and sneaking in to illegally vote is just another way to take over our country, one without firing a shot. The same is true of China taking over the U.S. by BUYING it up, one property at a time. Time way past to severely limit sales of U.S. property to foreign investment, especially China. I see how they are buying up everything and anything here in NYC. I can sit on my porch and see no one but Chinese walk by. Time for the U.S. to wake up and smell the rice.
Frankly, I don't care if our troops open fire on these scum. It was THEIR choice to arrogantly claim that they are coming into our country, unwanted or not. Mexico is nothing but a scum duplicitous country---did you see the pics of Mexican cops handing out food to these invaders? I'd let them starve and then let the desert take care of them.
People worried about "optics" are stupid libtard indoctrinated sheep. I'm sure if they had been in charge of WWII theaters, they would have said, "But we should try negotiating with the Nazis!" Just before a bullet sunk itself between their do-gooder stupid eyes. They'd die with the plaintive plea "But WHY????" on their lips. They've never seen the U.S. rise up and defend its borders against invasion. That's what we're seeing now, thank G-d.
Transport every single one of them into California, straight for LA and environs.
Cali loves immigration, legal or not. LA district can deal with providing for them.
A PA system blasting recordings of speeches by Obama and Hillary? That would be inhumane.
BIG QUESTION?
If the caravan, being on foot covers 20 miles per day it would take them 50 days to arrive at the US Border.
It is about 14 days until the mid-term elections here in the US.
How will the caravan ever arrive in time to affect the midterms???
Yes, it is a battle of optics, but the optics of "invading with entitlements" has been driven into our collective consciousness over the decades as a good thing, something that this country has always welcomed (I know that is an oversimplification and is wrong). All the stories about tired, huddled masses, Statue of Liberty, etc. will be trotted out. But the optics of a soldier pointing a gun at a pregnant mother or a child - that is never good.
BIG QUESTION?
If the caravan, being on foot covers 20 miles per day it would take them 50 days to arrive at the US Border.
It is about 14 days until the mid-term elections here in the US.
How will the caravan ever arrive in time to affect the midterms???
USTRANSCOM is BeauBo’s brilliant idea. It seems to solve all of the problems.
An expert on the legalities of immigration law would understand the intricacies of a formal declaration of martial law. As it stands now, once they step foot here, they rarely really leave- lawyers-due process. I think martial law suspends those very rights, so we can just say-”ADIOS Amigos!”
Martial law could be restrictive in territory-within 2 miles of the border and timeframe- 30 days.
Then we will very quickly have the full communist revolution.
Then they will work to revoke everything. The constitution, 2A, property and wealth confiscation- all of it.
Full bore Venezuala and open season on anyone white.
We have reached end game. Which way Western Man?
Is “Catch and Release” an actual law or one of Obama’s executive orders? An EO can be rescinded.
+1 for Aimpoint.
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