Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Three reasons Mueller may not charge Trump with obstruction
The Hill ^ | 10/13/18 | JONATHAN TURLEY

Posted on 10/13/2018 7:46:40 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Washington is in another frenzy over the disclosure that President Trump’s lawyers are preparing answers to written questions from special counsel Robert Mueller. Observers are speculating on the meaning of this move, as anticipation grows for the investigation’s culmination.

If the suspense is killing you, a bigger surprise may await.

The most significant aspect of this story may be what it did not contain: questions about obstruction. Mueller is asking about Russian collusion, rather than the driving force behind his appointment after the firing of former FBI director James Comey. Indeed, ample reasons exist to question whether there is a serious obstruction charge in the making — the focus of so much media attention since Comey was ignobly dispatched on May 10, 2017.

Director Alfred Hitchcock once chastised fans not to confuse suspense with surprise. Hitchcock described a scene with two people “having a very innocent chat” with a bomb under their table — and then it explodes. That is surprise; as Hitchcock put it, “Nothing happens, and then all of a sudden, ‘Boom!’”

Now take the same scene and allow it to go longer with a bomb set to go off with a clock on the wall. Hitchcock explained: “The public is aware the bomb is going to explode. ... In these conditions, the same innocuous conversation becomes fascinating because the public is ... longing to warn the characters on the screen: ‘You shouldn't be talking about such trivial matters. There is a bomb beneath you and it is about to explode!’” The suspense comes from the waiting.

Mueller’s obstruction investigation could well prove to be the suspense of the bomb that never goes off. Indeed, there is ample reason to question whether Mueller ever seriously believed obstruction had the capability of exploding into a criminal charge.

For two years, the public has watched this figurative bomb beneath a table at the Oval Office, waiting (and, in some cases, openly praying) for it to explode. Their wait has been fueled by commentators who scream “Boom!” with every disclosure, great or small. Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman and former Attorney General Eric Holder have categorically declared that Trump committed obstruction of justice. Others have cited his tweets as a compelling basis for an obstruction charge. University of Notre Dame professor Jimmy Gurulé even suggested it was obstruction for Trump to extend his “appreciation and greetings” to special counsel Mueller. Boom.

The claim of an impending explosion contrasts sharply with the actual scene unfolding in Washington. Consider just three indicators that there is more suspense than surprise in this Hitchcockian scene.

This is not how you build an “O” bomb

As I have previously argued, none of the allegations raised over obstruction fit well with the criminal code or prior opinions defining that crime. There are a variety of obstruction crimes but most have no applicability to this controversy. There is Section 18 U.S.C. 1503 which broadly defines the crime of “corruptly” endeavoring “to influence, obstruct or impede the due administration of justice.” This “omnibus” provision, however, is most properly used for judicial proceedings such as grand jury investigations, and the Supreme Court has narrowly construed the provision.

There is also 18 U.S.C. 1512(c), which makes it a crime for any person who corruptly or “otherwise obstructs, influences or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so.” However, this provision has been narrowly construed as well on the underlying conduct and the need for some “official proceeding.” Mueller should be fully aware of that problem since his principal deputy, Andrew Weissmann, was responsible for over-extending that provision in a jury instruction that led the Supreme Court to reverse the conviction in the Arthur Andersen case in 2005.

These and other provisions simply do not make for a compelling case against Trump. While Trump has shown breathtakingly poor judgment in firing Comey and publicly attacking investigators, that is not obstruction. Moreover, Trump had independent grounds to fire Comey, including many of the reasons cited by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in his scathing criticism of Comey in 2017. Put simply, this is not what an “O” bomb looks like.

The wrong people are at the table

Another indicator is that, if Mueller were seriously investigating obstruction, Rosenstein should not be sitting at the table. For that matter, neither should Mueller. Mueller interviewed for Comey’s job after he was fired — making him a witness. Rosenstein has an even more direct and damaging conflict as someone involved in the firing and the controversy that followed. Indeed, Rosenstein recognized that “serious” allegations of a conflict exist but, inappropriately, he left the matter to Mueller: “Director Mueller ought to review that and make a determination of whether or not he believes it is within the scope of his investigation.”

Rosenstein’s position leads to a rather intriguing explanation for his continuation as Mueller’s superior. What if Mueller agreed that this is not a credible obstruction case? In that case, there would be no “O” bomb under the table, or any problem in Rosenstein sitting at the table. If there is no obstruction, there is no real conflict for Rosenstein.

The conversation is not about the bomb under table

That brings us to Mueller not asking about obstruction in his written questions. It is curious thing when there is an “O” bomb in plain sight but no one in the room seems to be focusing on it. Trump’s testimony is far more important on obstruction than collusion; his intent would be vital to making even a marginal obstruction case. However, Mueller is asking nary a word about obstruction in these questions.

It certainly is possible that Mueller either wants an interview on obstruction or nothing at all. In that case, the “Boom!” comes with a subpoena to the president to sit down for an interview. Existing law would favor Mueller in demanding such an interview, but he has not requested it. He has reportedly asked witnesses about obstruction but, if he were serious about an actual charge (either during or after Trump’s presidency), he would demand answers from Trump. Otherwise, obstruction issues would become just part of the narrative in a report.

For all the hype, the Mueller investigation has not been particularly surprising. Indeed, any surprises are largely contrived with common plea agreements and charges in federal investigations. As I wrote after Mueller’s appointment, it was more likely that we would see charges of false statements under 18 U.S.C. 1001 as opposed to obstruction or collusion charges. That is almost the full extent of charges brought against former Trump associates; the remaining charges against people such as Paul Manafort are entirely unrelated to the campaign. Mueller has charged a variety of Russians with hacking and interfering with the election, but these filings notably do not implicate Trump and actually exonerate Trump campaign officials who “unwittingly” had contact with these individuals.

Does this mean Mueller’s investigation is a bomb? Of course not; he has done a thorough, commendable job of identifying and indicting Russian agents behind the effort to interfere with our election. He may also have other criminal acts to allege.

If, however, you are waiting for the “O” explosion, you may end up with little more than the suspense of a Hitchcockian bomb that fails to go off.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: desperatedems; georgewashingtonu; jonathanturley; mueller; trump
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-46 next last
To: yesthatjallen

“Mueller’s obstruction investigation could well prove to be the suspense of the bomb that never goes off. Indeed, there is ample reason to question whether Mueller ever seriously believed obstruction had the capability of exploding into a criminal charge.”

Who writes this kind of crap? This is a coup by special counsel. Mueller was never going to charge/indict President Trump, he’s going to present the report to Congress. A long laundry list of ‘crimes and obstruction of justice’

Mueller’s mission:

1)Embroil the Trump admin with scandals with the ultimate goal of resignation-impeachment.

2)Bury the mountain of high crimes and high treason of Obama, hillary and their apparatchiks

3)Make sure that no one will want to work for the Trump administration for fear they will be indicted by a soviet style special counsel.


21 posted on 10/13/2018 8:28:08 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: frogjerk

“Will Mueller drop some sort of BS “bombshell” right before the election for the Dims?”

Good question. I expect him to drop his impeachment report to congress as the october surprise. Trump maybe using the release of the FISA docs, etc. to stave that off.


22 posted on 10/13/2018 8:31:12 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: yesthatjallen

Here are the three reasons, in order:
1. He’s
2. Not
3. Guilty.


23 posted on 10/13/2018 8:34:56 PM PDT by Ken Regis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yesthatjallen

How about it was all lies cooked up by demonrats.


24 posted on 10/13/2018 8:36:27 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bommer

Maybe Mueller can get a womxn to come forward and accuse POTUS of obstruction. Everyone will be forced to believe her


25 posted on 10/13/2018 8:42:10 PM PDT by atc23 (M*NKEY - there, I said it!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: yesthatjallen
Without reading the article, let me elucidate the three main reasons Mueller won't charge Trump:

THERE WAS NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

THERE WAS NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

THERE WAS NO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

How hard was that?

26 posted on 10/13/2018 9:05:11 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rlmorel

Mueller’s special counsel is a COUP under the guise of law. Brought to us by Jeff Sessions, Rod Rosenstein and the corrupt state.

Barring a miracle, Mueller WILL present a report to congress. A long laundry list of crimes and obstruction of justice. The dems and the rinos want Trump gone. The dems need no reason...the repukis need a ‘legal fig leaf’ from mueller.


27 posted on 10/13/2018 9:19:41 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Electric Graffiti
Take heart. It isn't going to work, Electric Graffiti. Instead, take a look at this, link I included on a thread, and have a hearty laugh. (it is a music video, kicking song, and has all the villains that we hate being tracked down by Trump himself, as shown in this excellent screen capture from the video!

TRUMPERLAND! (Video: 1:43 min)

Heh, come on, give it a link! You know you need a laugh...you won't regret it! How can you resist a picture of a madly grinning Trump, flying through the air with a gun in his hand, just about to land right on Rosenstein's back to capture him as he flees?

28 posted on 10/13/2018 9:38:12 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: rlmorel

LMAO....the take down of RR was worth the price of admission ;)


29 posted on 10/13/2018 9:46:05 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: DesertRhino

What is this “collusion” you speak of? There simply is no law regarding something called collusion.

><

That’s right. That has irked me from the beginning of this Cangaroo court-farce.


30 posted on 10/13/2018 9:53:50 PM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Electric Graffiti

LOL, the grinning Trump face...I also liked Hillary and that SOB Brennan.


31 posted on 10/13/2018 9:54:34 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: yesthatjallen

“Three reasons Mueller may not charge Trump with obstruction”

1. He is not guilty of obstruction.
2. He is the victim of a variety of dirty tricks and a soft coup.
3. Those who perpetrated the dirty tricks and soft coup are the ones guilty of obstruction.


32 posted on 10/13/2018 9:59:08 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rlmorel

And at the end...O’muslim.


33 posted on 10/13/2018 10:08:29 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Ancesthntr

“Those who perpetrated the dirty tricks and soft coup are the ones guilty of obstruction.”

This is a massive conspiracy of high treason. And we have no controlling legal authority in sight that it is not corrupt and loyal to the left or compromised(Jeff ‘the rat bastard’ Sessions)


34 posted on 10/13/2018 10:11:19 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: yesthatjallen

How about Mueller being incompetent, biased, unethical (Whitey Bulgar and 4 innocent men sent to jail in Boston), politically corrupt, and one reason our intelligence agencies are looked at like their leaders (under Obama), were the “Three/Four Stooges” - Mueller, Clapper, Brennan, Comey and a supporting cast of second tier traitors.

Once this charade is over, and if the Republicans keep both the House and the Senate, then I’d like to see a Roto-Rooter type congressional investigation of everything Mueller has been involved in since the 1990’s. Then it’s off to jail with him on the conviction of “malefeasance of office”, “abuse of his police powers” (Bulgar case), false charging arrests of Gates, Manafort, Papadopoulus and Flyn.

In other words, it is Mueller who should be in jail or under sentence for non-Collusion investigation charges and smears.

Let the SOB rot in jail. Then we would have some real justice in America.


35 posted on 10/13/2018 11:21:26 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elpadre

“Mueller? Is he still around??”

Yeah, he’s still there and leaking like hell:

-today the Kushner income tax details
-before that the Peter Smith clinton email chase
-before that the Gates Repub Convention delegate bot strategy
-before that the trump estate tax details
-before that the Rosenstein McCabe memos
-before that...

Time for “rule of law” Rod Rosenstein to shut down this farce.


36 posted on 10/13/2018 11:27:31 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (I am a Putin bot. (they, their, theirs))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Three reasons?
  1. Jail.
  2. Prison.
  3. Gallows.

37 posted on 10/13/2018 11:41:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

Mueller investigation is ILLEGITIMATE. shut it down. anyone indicted/jailed/affected by it should sue.


38 posted on 10/14/2018 12:05:48 AM PDT by MAGAthon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: yesthatjallen
Top Three Reasons Mueller Will Not Charge Trump With Obstruction

  1. There wasn't any obstruction on the part of the President.
  2. There wasn't any obstruction on the part of the President.
  3. There wasn't any obstruction on the part of the President.


39 posted on 10/14/2018 12:07:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ifinnegan
Tenure is hereby conferred.
40 posted on 10/14/2018 1:46:35 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-46 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson