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DiogenesLamp: "You may be referring to war time, i'm referring to post war constitutional violations. If you would read what I write more closely, you would realize we have been discussing the confiscation of slaves after the war."

This is the second time on this thread that you've claimed to be discussing some other situation than was obvious from your words.
The first time was not even to me, but I noticed your claim seemed very lame, now you've done it again.

Might I suggest you take more care to make sure the subject of your claims is very, very clear?

DiogenesLamp: "You are trying to deflect the point about proof of rebellion with proof of war."

Logically, all rebellion is war but not all wars are rebellions...

DiogenesLamp: "Sure, anyone you pick up on the battlefield can likely be regarded as having been proven at war, but you cannot make such blanket statements regarding the civilian populations."

At the Civil War's end former Confederates were not allowed to vote or hold political office.
And this is a problem for you... why?

DiogenesLamp: "According to constitutional law, you have to prove they were guilty of crimes against the United States.
You can't just declare everyone guilty.
Except they did."

After the Civil War the voting franchise was taken from former Confederates and given to former slaves.
And your problem with this is what...?

This is the second time on this thread that you've claimed to be discussing some other situation than was obvious from your words.

You get the wrong impression because you don't actually read what other people write to you. You just see they left you a message, and you're off galloping at the keyboard to respond.

The point was that freeing slaves was illegal. While you can make a specious argument for doing so during the war, you cannot make a legal argument for doing it after the war. Of course restricting it to slaves also undermines it's claim of validity as a war tactic.

At the Civil War's end former Confederates were not allowed to vote or hold political office.

Which is an illegal act pulled completely out of Lincoln's @$$. States determine who is allowed to vote, not the Federal Government, at least that's the way it was prior to the Civil War.

Disenfranchising the legal and valid citizens of a state is a dictatorial move, not a constitutional one. It is a clear usurpation of the powers reserved to the state under Article I, Section 2.