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To: DiogenesLamp; Bull Snipe; x
DiogenesLamp: "William Seward should have been our 16th President.
Much bloodshed and destruction would have been avoided.
So too would we have avoided the growth of the Federal Monster thus created in 1861. "

In 1860 Seward was the Republicans' leading candidate going into Chicago.
Now DiogenesLamp has previously posted a lot of fake news about goings on at the Republican convention in Chicago, but the fact is Republicans were not willing to nominate Seward for good reasons.
One is the very thing DiogenesLamp is most noted for: Republicans didn't like that Seward was a New Yorker.
Another is they believed only Lincoln could carry Illinois and other midwestern states, states which had previously been part of the Democrats' "blue wall".

If, with Seward the Republican nominee, those Midwestern states voted Democrat in 1860 then the election would be thrown into the House of Representatives and there Deep South Fire Eaters would make their demands, especially for something akin to the Corwin Amendment.
And the House would likely have elected Democrat Douglas President which means Georgia Governor Herschel Johnson would become President when Douglas died in 1861.

With a Corwin-type amendment ratified and Georgian Johnson as President, abolition in the United States would be off the table and expansion of slavery into free territories & states would be next on the Slave Power's agenda.

Lincoln said it this way:

With President Herschel Johnson running for reelection in 1864, the outcome would be anybody's guess.

Senator Herschel Johnson from Georgia (Douglas' VP) would become President in 1861 had Republicans nominated New York's Senator William Seward for President in 1860:


564 posted on 10/16/2018 9:05:04 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK
Now DiogenesLamp has previously posted a lot of fake news about goings on at the Republican convention in Chicago, but the fact is Republicans were not willing to nominate Seward for good reasons.

Yes, Lincoln bribed them. Offered promises of government jobs in exchange for support from pivotal delegates. Set the entire tone for his Crony administration and it's back door corruption with big business.

We see the consequences of it in the subsequent Grant Administration.

594 posted on 10/16/2018 11:23:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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