[central_va]

Agree. The USA was not in the fight for it's existence AND EVERYONE AT THE TIME KNEW IT.

The meme that the South wanted to conquer that North is total BS fairy tale. The USA would have been fine either way with or without the South. The war was a choice and not necessity for the North. They fought it like that too.

[BroJoeK]

central_va: "The meme that the South wanted to conquer that North is total BS fairy tale."

The meme that the Confederacy did not start war, did not declare war and did not fight an existential war against the United States, in Union states & territories is, ahem, total BS fairy tale.