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Rochester Hills man who fired at teen asking for directions found guilty by jury
Click on Detroit ^ | 10/12/18 | By Nick Monacelli - Reporter, Dave Bartkowiak Jr., Derick Hutchinson

Posted on 10/12/2018 12:43:01 PM PDT by Blue House Sue

ROCHESTER HILLS, Mich. - A Rochester Hills man seen on video firing a gun at a teenager who was lost and looking for directions was found guilty by a jury Friday on two counts.

Jeffrey Zeigler was charged with assault with intent to murder and felony firearms violations. The jury found him guilty of the lesser charge of assault with intent to do great bodily harm and possession of a firearm in commission of a felony.

The 14-year-old boy said he got lost while walking to school April 12 and was looking for directions. He knocked on the door to a home in the 2200 block of South Christian Hills Drive. The homeowner told police he came out with a shotgun because he believed his home was being broken into.

Deputies responded to the home about 8:20 a.m. that morning after the man's wife said someone was trying to break into her home.

"The caller reported that a black male was trying to break into her house and her husband chased after him into the yard. Upon deputies' arrival, it was determined that the husband chased after the male with a 12 gauge shotgun and fired a round toward the fleeing male. No injuries were reported," reads a statement from the Sheriff's Office.

(Excerpt) Read more at clickondetroit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: jeffreyzeigler; localnews
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To: Blue House Sue

But the fact remains, this video appears to be edited.


21 posted on 10/12/2018 1:01:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Keyhopper

“Most burglars don’t knock on you door”

Actually most do. To see if anyone is home.


22 posted on 10/12/2018 1:01:54 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Keyhopper

” Most burglars don’t knock on you door”

Not really relevant in this case, but burglars will often knock to see if anyone is home. If they are home, they make up some excuse.


23 posted on 10/12/2018 1:02:57 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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To: dragnet2

“But the fact remains, this video appears to be edited.”

Perhaps, but if so, it’s too late, and the perp should have come up with a better story and hired a better lawyer.

He can ponder that in the pen.


24 posted on 10/12/2018 1:03:31 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Wayne07; Blue House Sue

Article doesn’t say, but I’m betting he usually had some other form of transportation (bus or parent’s car, or maybe with another kid) and missed that somehow, so he decided to walk.

Hey, I have done that. And I have gotten lost! I am neither a moron nor a genius, just a normal adult (cue my husband’s laughter at this point) with a rather dicey sense of direction.


25 posted on 10/12/2018 1:05:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Just sayin...)
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To: Blue House Sue

That begs the question, if if the video can be ID’d so quickly as appearing possibly edited, why would the cops/DA no pursue that when they took the video as evidence? It’s not up to the homeowner to investigate his own evidence. It could have been a technical issue with the camera which could be critical to whatever the homeowner is alleging. No?


26 posted on 10/12/2018 1:09:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lazamataz

“NEVER EVER SPEAK TO THE POLICE. Ask for your lawyer instead.”

The shooter is not all that bright.

He knew there was a video, and I assume he knew that lawyers exist.

He spoke before seeing the video and prior to consulting an attorney.

He would have had a difficult case to defend, but lying did him no good.


27 posted on 10/12/2018 1:09:28 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: dragnet2

“It’s not up to the homeowner to investigate his own evidence. It could have been a technical issue with the camera which could be critical to whatever the homeowner is alleging. No?”

It could be that, but if so, you have the video analyzed by experts, you don’t lie to the police.

Otherwise, you get convicted and are fighting for the top bunk in a prison cell.


28 posted on 10/12/2018 1:12:47 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Keyhopper

I read about breakins in the Milledgeville, Georgia area that told the opposite is true. The police explained that a group of “teenagers” would drive somewhere and park out of sight. Then, one “teen” would get out and go to the door to knock. The purpose was to see if someone was home (these “teens” had the idea that if anyone was home they would answer the knock). If no one answered the door he would signal to his buds, and the whole bunch would break in and steal, I mean borrow whatever they wanted.

OTOH, if someone answered the knock, the “teen” would ask some innocuous question...like, “would you like to have your grass cut?”, or “does Billy Bob live here?”, or “I’m lost, could you tell me how to find the school?” After someone opened the door, and talked to the “teen”, the “teen” would leave and walk away. The “teens” would simply keep this up until they scored.


29 posted on 10/12/2018 1:14:44 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Sweet Saint Skittles bounced dat ole white Craka head off da sidewalk causin he was real skeered.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He missed his school bus.

Kids don’t pay attention to the local geography while on the bus.


30 posted on 10/12/2018 1:15:47 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue
It could be that, but if so, you have the video analyzed by experts, you don’t lie to the police.

Who said the homeowner lied? Even you seemed to agree, the video has obviously been edited at a very critical time. It's up to the police investigators to determine if the video has been edited, compromised and or had a technical issue, regardless of what the homeowner or his lawyer have to say about it.

31 posted on 10/12/2018 1:18:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka

He should’ve waited until the little a hole was inside.


32 posted on 10/12/2018 1:21:29 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Lazamataz
Small concern, in comparison to the substantial evidence of a bad shoot.

Standard burglary MO in out neighborhood is walk up to the front door, knock, if you answer, pretend to be lost, if no one answers, go around the side of the house and break window and burgle the house. So yes, a bad shoot, but not surprising to think burglar.

33 posted on 10/12/2018 1:24:34 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: dragnet2

“Who said the homeowner lied? Even you seemed to agree, the video has obviously been edited at a very critical time. It’s up to the police investigators to determine if the video has been edited, compromised and or had a technical issue, regardless of what the homeowner or his lawyer have to say about it.”

The shooter claims he slipped and that caused him to fire his weapon. Clearly, the video does not show that he slipped.

Again, if the video was edited, the defense lawyer should have spotted that.

Hire a good lawyer today, or spend the next ten years trading packs of cigs for bologna sandwiches.


34 posted on 10/12/2018 1:25:52 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Keyhopper
Most burglars don’t knock on you door

WRONG!

It is the standard MO here in central AR. Burglars often knock on the front door to "raise money for mission trip" if you actually answer.

If not, they walk around back and break in.

The best crew here in Little Rock would pull up in a rented truck (used fake ID) and, having stolen lawn company gear (weed eater or blower) would commence to work on the yard. Burglar inside would be rummaging and listening to the blower. If blower went off....emergency! Homeowner or cop pulled up. Blower user would say, "Whoops wrong house" while the guy inside would bolt and meet up later.

35 posted on 10/12/2018 1:26:52 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: Blue House Sue

“Lost” “Asking for directions”

Who the heck believes that?

Knock-knock robbery

They are a real thing.


36 posted on 10/12/2018 1:31:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Keyhopper

AU contraire. It is a VERY common practice in SoCal.

They are, in fact, known as “knock-knock burglaries”


37 posted on 10/12/2018 1:32:44 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Blue House Sue
Again, if the video was edited, the defense lawyer should have spotted that.

I don't see how they couldn't. If this video was the actual evidence seized by law enforcement, it should have been investigated by them. This is not disputable. In fact, I've viewed 2 other video from this case, and both also appeared edited. It jumped out immediately. So How is it possible the police investigators missed this?

Btw, lawyers and their clients say things all the time that are not true or inaccurate. That's why it's the direct responsibility of the cops to investigate all the evidence.

38 posted on 10/12/2018 1:34:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin

There is no evidence that the kid was breaking into the house.


39 posted on 10/12/2018 1:35:10 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

And you base that on what appears to be an edited/compromised video.


40 posted on 10/12/2018 1:36:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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