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Trump is right: There's no possible way we can afford 'Medicare for all'....(Single Payer)
White House/WashingtonExamine ^ | 10/1029018 | Sally Pipes

Posted on 10/11/2018 3:47:47 PM PDT by caww

He's absolutely right. Voters would do well to heed his warning......According to him, if Democrats succeed in implementing their single-payer proposal, "costs will spiral out of control. Taxes will skyrocket. And Democrats will seek to slash budgets for seniors' Medicare, Social Security and Defense." (to pay for it)

A government takeover of the health system would be a fiscal nightmare. .."Medicare for all" would cost the federal government an additional $32.6 trillion in spending over its first 10 years, according to a recent analysis by Charles Blahous at the Mercatus Center. Even if the government doubled the amount of federal income and corporate tax it takes in every year, it still wouldn't be able to foot the bill.

"Medicare for all" would result in massive tax hikes and a wave of hospital and clinic closings. And with the increased burden on taxpayers will come lengthy waits times, rationed care, and doctor shortages. As President Trump is arguing, voters simply can't afford to take the plunge.

Lately championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the ill-conceived socialist dream of "Medicare for all" is gaining steam. Sixteen Democratic senators have co-sponsored the legislation. And a whopping 123 House Democrats, representing more than 60 percent of the minority party, support a related bill. Moreover, many candidates running for office have embraced the idea.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: medicare; medicareforall; neverworks; socialism; sucks
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1 posted on 10/11/2018 3:47:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Moreover...why would we want it?


2 posted on 10/11/2018 3:54:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: caww

Disclaimer: I do not qualify for these benefits so this is based upon reading about the program

If an individual wants to receive basic guaranteed health care from the US government, not a gold-plated program but one that does work though with some waiting list and covers most preexisting conditions then it is readily available to anyone under I think 40-years-old.

Join the military, not the reserves, for four years and qualify for VA benefits.


3 posted on 10/11/2018 3:54:52 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: caww

How about Medicare for none?


4 posted on 10/11/2018 3:55:22 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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When he was running, all the never trumpers on this forum swore he was going to foist single payer on us.


5 posted on 10/11/2018 3:56:05 PM PDT by proust ("The rule is, jam tomorrow and jam yesterday, but never jam today.")
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To: BenLurkin

Have you seen what Medicare pays? If you don’t have a secondary, you’re screwed. And, read the fine print. If Medicare refuses a procedure or surgery, the secondary doesn’t want to pay either!

Did President Trump get rid of the Death Panels in DeathCare?


6 posted on 10/11/2018 3:59:49 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Obama says “you’re better off not having the surgery”


7 posted on 10/11/2018 4:05:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Dems want it for all the illegals they’ve brought in to solidify their votes...and a sure magnet for all the ill people of the world!


8 posted on 10/11/2018 4:05:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: BenLurkin

Obama has made sure he has the best medical coverage the American people can provide for him for FREE.


9 posted on 10/11/2018 4:06:45 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Nothings entirely free.....we all have to put our own skin in our health care coverage.

Are you saying you want single payer then?


10 posted on 10/11/2018 4:07:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Yeah, elderly people that have paid into Medicare for Twenty-Forty years, should share it with Eighteen year olds that haven’t worked, or paid a dime into t. INSANITY. Give everyone over Sixty-Five the money they paid into it, With Interest, before you blather about Sharing.


11 posted on 10/11/2018 4:08:12 PM PDT by heights
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To: Poison Pill

You’re argument for no medicare for anyone is?


12 posted on 10/11/2018 4:09:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: heights

The young people today want everything free and believe they are entitled to it....Bernie’s platform of “free” everything drew the college kids because they’re all still living off their folks while in college. They haven’t a clue about economics let alone being out in the world and seeing if they want to have deducted $$$$$$$$ from their checks to pay for those not working.


13 posted on 10/11/2018 4:14:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Maybe if they kill all of the old white people in might work.


14 posted on 10/11/2018 4:17:47 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: forgotten man

Obviously that’s in the Dems plan already....and why they like assisted suicide, euthanasia and abortion. They are only about the healthy, productive and those they can control.


15 posted on 10/11/2018 4:21:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

The real reason this country can’t go to a Single-Payor system is COST. If we had done this right after W.W. II like Canada and Western Europe it would have worked, costs were low and those countries now probably do not spend much over 3% GDP.

We are now spending close to 20% GDP. In California the estimated cost to do this was an additional $400 Billion on top of current budget. So you extrapolate that cost nationwide and your talking, my estimate, about $3 to $4 trillion on top of the current budget.

How would you raise that kind of money. Probably and additional payroll Tax or 15 to 20%. That will take even more disposable income out of people’s pockets, for a lot of folks it will squeeze them on basic expenses for living.

We are just past the point of a Single-Payor system unless we find a serious way to collapse Health Care costs 80 to 90%. So let the Democrats explain how they will do this.


16 posted on 10/11/2018 4:24:17 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: heights

Medicare is Like Social Security, no one paid into anything, all you did was pay someone else’s. Those working right naw are paying for those in Medicare.


17 posted on 10/11/2018 4:26:00 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: heights

Medicare is an old age welfare program. Nothing more, nothing less. That’s not a criticism, just a statement of fact. It will be cut substantially when and if the next generation decides it is tapped out and says, “no more.”


18 posted on 10/11/2018 4:29:04 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Well if you take a look at the countries who have this...including California you’ll find the people hate the care they now get for having it. Plenty of articles about why it’s hated.


19 posted on 10/11/2018 4:29:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Well if you take a look at the countries who have this...including California you’ll find the people hate the care they now get for having it. Plenty of articles about why it’s hated.


20 posted on 10/11/2018 4:29:14 PM PDT by caww
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