You are Ford, I am Kavanaugh, in regards to these false claims in this thread. The title says China infiltrated Apple & Amazon, without any proof. Yet you call it credible, simply because you are an “actual” Electrical Engineer. Just like Ford, who is Dr. Ford so she is deemed credible, without a evidence trail. Guilty until proven Guilty, is your motto. Without any evidence. So Apple and Amazon are left accused of being hacked, without a shred of proof because people hear from idiots on the Internet so it must be so. You show me proof, not the other way around. Sheesh, think.
LOL!
Don’t believe *anything^ public about this. Not the claims nor the denials.
Those who know don’t tell.
He is right and you are just farting in the wind, maybe you are an employee of these 2 “fine” organizations and know better or are just cognitively dissonant to what is going on. Yes, indeed, the Endeavor servers are compromised and anyone who uses them are as well.
Maybe you missed the headlines in trade papers and even MSM about the Google hack that they said was “only” 50 Million users but word around town is that it is closer to 100 Million. Do you even understand what Google and apple are playing with, what their design considerations are and how their database is constructed? And it is not just these devices that are compromised, so are major other elements of their architecture that is born out by them being hacked and Apple and Google ties to China including the Search Engine specifically designed for the Chinese market project. Google just walked away from a $10 billion dollar deal with the Gov, I feel it is because they would fail a security audit.
All of this will become clear soon and in my opinion BoD is correct. I have worked directly with deep level hardware and software engineers and have my own views of what is going on and my info does not come from newsprint or media reports, but from people who deal with this stuff daily. Google is going down as is Facebook (also hacked) and Twitter and even with all the money they have spent they are infiltrated.
So Einstein, with all that they have spent and built how do YOU think these events happened?
Inquiring minds want to know, and please share your point of view and profession to validate your position and insights.
Looking forward to it
Also look up Swordmaker here on FR, he shares the same views as posited by BoD
Batter up!
The REAL history is quite different from Bloomberg's fantasy Tall Tale. . . and it does NOT support their claims at all. The history, the facts, proves their claims as false. The facts are like Kavanaugh's calendar. The fly in the face of Bloomberg's writer's assertions and disprove their claims.
Both Amazon and Apple were buying their servers from Elemental Systems, an American company that built rack mounted servers using Supermicro motherboards, also an American company headquartered and designed in San Jose, CA, which were built in China by a subcontractor, but which went under stringent quality control checks by Supermicro.
According to the Bloomberg tall tale, both Apple and Amazon found the compromised motherboards in Summer of 2015 and cancelled their orders. However that is NOT what actually happened. The truth is that Amazon BOUGHT the entire Elemental Company, lock, stock, and Supermicro contract barrel, in the Autumn of 2015 to assure their continued supply of rack mount servers. . . and Elemental continued to supply their now corporate owner company, Amazon, and sister companies Amazon Web Services (AWS), and Amazon Prime Video/Movie Service, with Rack Mount servers and slowly started cutting off their other contracted customers as the demand from Amazon grew.
Apple did NOT sever relationship with Elemental and Supermicro when the supposedly found compromised motherboards in Summer 2015, but waited until the Summer of 2016 when their supplies could not meet Apple's requirements and Apple had to look elsewhere for rack mount servers. By then Apple had bought and installed approximately 2,500 Elemental Servers POST summer of 2015 with Supermicro motherboards. . . so never did complete their intended 30,000 order due to Elemental dedicating its production to Amazon's needs.
Not a single one of these companies filed the LEGALLY REQUIRED security alert they routinely report on every other exploit, vulnerability, flaw, etc., they find. None, Zip, nada, so that others would avoid being compromised by this invasion of security.
Instead, Amazon bought the Elemental Systems, the company that supposedly was going to sell them the compromised spy hardware. . . the company that then continued to buy the supposed compromised component hardware from Supermicro, the wholesale company who provided compromised hardware. Apple went ahead and continued to buy the supposedly compromised servers after supposedly finding the spy chip on the motherboard.
These are the facts, not speculation, not rumor. Apple made an official statement to it's facts, as did Amazon, joined by the CEO of Amazon Web Services. All three state categorically they have NOT found anything untoward on the servers containing Supermicro motherboards. Supermicro, who's stock has taken an almost 80% hit and is now trading as a penny stock after being delisted from NASDAQ due to Bloomberg's unrelenting hit pieces, has officially stated they do extreme quality assurance checks on their products that come from their manufacturers in China and have found NOTHING added and no modifications. . . and no one has come forward from ANY CUSTOMERS of Supermicro to show a compromised board. NONE, ZIP, NADA. All we have are anonymous sources published in Bloomberg.
These are NOT the actions of companies which found the products they intended to be using were compromised with spy hardware.
Until you show me REAL EVIDENCE, it's FAKE NEWS from a serial FAKE NEWS Publisher. . . spreading FUD, Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.