[BillyBoy]

Again, make that case on the "JFK is God" threads where they routinely claim the DemonRat Party was "honorable and patriotic and conservative" prior to the late 60s, then they "changed" somehow.

I agree with you that Wilson was scum. Also, the RAT party overall was HEAVILY socialist and globalist in 1913. But historical facts like that get in the way of their delusional narrative.

Either Wilson and his fellow RATs were socialists and the RAT party has been pushing this stuff for well over a century and HASN'T "changed" OR The RAT Party was overall honorable and patriotic and conservative before JFK was killed, which means that 50 years earlier in 1913 they certainly would have been a bunch of great patriotic leaders and "more conservative than today's Republicans"

You guys can't have it both ways.

[dfwgator]

I may have disagreed with him on things, but the only Rat I had some respect for is Harry Truman.

[fieldmarshaldj]

As I’ve pointed out many times, the Democrat Party was hijacked by the Socialists in 1896 when they deposed Grover Cleveland’s sensible Bourbons. They still had some center-right people in it, but once the left got hold, it was set in stone for the future. After Cleveland in 1892, only on two occasions after that did the Democrats nominate two non-leftists for President: Judge Alton B. Parker in 1904 who was a moderate, and former Ambassador to the Court of St. James & ex-Solicitor General John W. Davis in 1924 (who, despite serving under Wilson was a center-right figure and declined an offer from President Harding to serve on the Supreme Court - not for any noble reasons, he actually couldn’t afford the pay cut. He was making several hundreds of thousands in the private sector and $15k was too little for him to consider).

The left was so enraged in 1924 that they didn’t get to nominate their man (either NY Gov. Al Smith or Wilson’s son-in-law, William Gibbs McAdoo) that they went with Socialist WI Sen. (and ultimate RINO) Robert La Follette, Sr., which handily delivered the WH to Coolidge.

So, from 1928 to date, every Dem Presidential candidate has been of the left without fail.

It’s truly a shame we couldn’t have had two parties in the country representing the right-of-center: a Bourbon Democrat Party and the GOP with the Socialist-Communist left abolished or consigned to the dustbin of history. Imagine spirited, patriotic battles as to which could implement a Constitutional Conservative agenda more aggressively. How much further along and better off would this country be today with two such choices competing for our votes ?

[rollo tomasi]

Both Repub and Dem Party (Bull Moose as well) were extremely progressive. All major Presidential candidates wanted the 16th Amendment and the Federal Reserve. The major differences had to do with foreign policy and involvement in the “Great War”. Roosevelt kick-started the Progressive era in an aggressive way while Wilson nurtured the degree of force.