Sabah published their names. This means that the info is leaked from the Turkish government. :
https://www.sabah.com.tr/gundem/2018/10/10/iste-15-kisilik-suikast-timi
Posted on 10/06/2018 9:38:07 PM PDT by robowombat
ISTANBUL — Turkey has concluded that Jamal Khashoggi, a prominent journalist from Saudi Arabia, was killed in the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul earlier this week by a Saudi team sent “specifically for the murder,” two people with knowledge of the probe said Saturday.
Turkish investigators believe a 15-member team “came from Saudi Arabia. It was a preplanned murder,” said one of the people. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing investigation.
They offered no specific evidence to back up the account. Earlier Saturday, however, Turkey’s Anadolu news agency said the Istanbul public prosecutor’s office had opened a probe into Khashoggi’s disappearance. Turkish authorities have said that Khashoggi never left the consulate
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
I hope he hangs on until the regional war settles down, but I'm not optimistic that's going to happen.
Turkey’s criminal investigation into the disappearance of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi is focusing on seven suspects who were filmed near the Gulf country’s consulate in Istanbul, according to local media reports.
Turkish police were limited to footage from two street cameras that monitor the street outside the consulate after Saudi officials claimed that security cameras inside the consulate were not working at the time of last week’s incident.
Private broadcaster NTV reported on Oct. 9 that all suspects were seen entering the consulate half an hour before Khashoggi and leaving it after almost three hours.
The suspects reportedly left the area with two cars whose license plates could be read by the police.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-police-focus-on-7-suspects-in-khashoggi-case-report-137699
Sabah published their names. This means that the info is leaked from the Turkish government. :
https://www.sabah.com.tr/gundem/2018/10/10/iste-15-kisilik-suikast-timi
The missing journalist wrote anti Trump and anti MBS articles for fake news Washington Post. His articles had a good bit of fake news in them too I am sure. Regardless, the Saudis should investigate his disappearance. If he is still missing, send a search and rescue party to help Turkey find him. If he tragically committed suicide while in the embassy, which seems likely, investigate what drove him to it. Question the fiancee, maybe even arrest her, but do get to the bottom of it.
The missing journalist wrote anti Trump and anti MBS articles for fake news Washington Post. His articles had a good bit of fake news in them too I am sure. Regardless, the Saudis should investigate his disappearance. If he is still missing, send a search and rescue party to help Turkey find him. If he tragically committed suicide while in the embassy, which seems likely, investigate what drove him to it. Question the fiancee, maybe even arrest her, but do get to the bottom of it.
“We know when Jamal was killed, in which room he was killed and where the body was taken to be dismembered. If the forensic team are allowed in, they know exactly where to go,” he said.
Half an hour before then, during the lunch break held at the consulate, all local staff members left for their usual lunch break which lasts an hour. As they left, they were told to take the afternoon off because a high-level diplomatic meeting was planned for the afternoon in the consulate, the source said.
Khashoggi walked into the consulate less than an hour later at 1.14pm.
He was greeted by an official, and led into the consul-general's room. Shortly afterwards, two men entered the room and dragged Khashoggi out of the office and into another room where they killed him, the source said, without elaborating how he was killed.
Khashoggi’s body was then dragged into a third room and dismembered, he said.
A source also told MEE the Saudis took all the hard drives from the security camera room at the consulate with them when they left the building.
The Saudis on Tuesday rescinded an offer they made originally to allow Turkish forensic experts onto the premises. Their offer was withdrawn after Turkish media outlets published a list of 15 Saudis who arrived in Istanbul on the same day Khashoggi disappeared.
The source who outlined the account of how Khashoggi was killed said that police investigators were confident they already had enough forensic evidence from searches of the sewage network connected to the building.
A second Turkish source with knowledge of the investigation told MEE that the Turks had video and audio evidence of the killing. However, they have not revealed how they obtained this evidence.
But particular attention is being paid to the Apple watch that Khashoggi was wearing when he entered the building. This is synced electronically to the iPhone that he gave his fiance before entering the building.
Each beat of the heart sends out an electrical impulse. With the ECG app, Apple Watch Series 4 can read and record these impulses by connecting the circuit between your heart and both arms.
https://www.apple.com/apple-watch-series-4/health/
Gee, that really sounds convincing. /sarc
Time will tell.
The articles by Khashoggi were probably more than sufficient for MbS: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/10/06/read-jamal-khashoggis-columns-for-the-washington-post/
MbS is trying to crush all opposition against him, but the royal family is divided and fears for the stability of Saudi. It is not unlikely that there will be more visible opposition in Saudi from one or more of the tribes. Here is a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Arabia
This is what John R. Bradley writes:
Khashoggi was an islamist praising the Muslim Brotherhood. His recurring plea in his columns was to embrace not western-style democracy, but the rise of political Islam which the Arab Spring had inadvertently given rise to. For Khashoggi, secularism was the enemy.
Most of the Islamic clerics in Saudi Arabia who have been imprisoned over the past two years — Khashoggi’s friends — have historic ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Khashoggi had therefore emerged as a de facto leader of the Saudi branch. Due to his profile and influence, he was the biggest political threat to bin Salman’s rule outside of the royal family.
Worse, from the royals’ point of view, was that Khashoggi had dirt on Saudi links to al Qaeda before the 9/11 attacks. He had befriended Osama bin Laden in the 1980s and 1990s in Afghanistan and Sudan while championing his jihad against the Soviets in dispatches. At that same time, he was employed by the Saudi intelligence services to try to persuade bin Laden to make peace with the Saudi royal family. The result? Khashoggi was the only non-royal Saudi who had the beef on the royals’ intimate dealing with al Qaeda in the lead-up to the 9/11 attacks. That would have been crucial if he had escalated his campaign to undermine the crown prince.
The Saudis worried that Khashoggi, living in the US, had become a US asset.
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Thanks. I hadn’t seen anything like that before.
Not sure it excuses killing & dismembering someone in your own embassy, though.
He was a cousin. Pimped a progressive group in S.A. and was a critic of the new King Salman. Not surprising he ended up dead. As far as I’m concerned, no real loss and nothing to get all riled up about. Other countries know how to handle their media.
As Eran Lerman, the vice president of the Jerusalem Institute for Strategic Studies and a former deputy national security council head, said: “It is certainly not in our interests to see the status of the Saudi government diminished in Washington.”
But, as it increasingly appears that the Saudi government – even the reformist Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, known as MBS – had a hand in Khashoggi’s disappearance, that is exactly what is starting to happen: the shine is coming off MBS’s luster.
It didn’t start with this incident. Already in August, when Saudi Arabia expelled Canada’s ambassador and froze new trade deals because of Canadian criticism of Saudi human rights violations, voices were raised in the US asking whether MBS is the right leader to cozy up to.
The one positive fallout from the Khashoggi affair, Lerman said, might be that it will force MBS to be more cautious.
“For all the good that he has been doing from our perspective on the balance of power in the region, there is one after-effect that I hear all too often from people watching – that he is impetuous, reckless, doing too much, too fast and that he is not careful enough about the consequences. So if this ends up adding a dimension of caution,” Lerman said, “it will not be a bad thing.”
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Khashoggi-and-the-Jewish-question-569256
Murder team?
This is NOT our problem. His death by crazies should be treated the SAME as the death of ANY American by overseas nuts.
Yes. WE CARE.
But no, we ARE NOT GOING TO WAR OVER HIS DEATH.
Murder team?
This is NOT our problem. His death by crazies should be treated the SAME as the death of ANY American by overseas nuts.
Yes. WE CARE.
But NO, we ARE NOT GOING TO WAR OVER HIS DEATH.
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