Posted on 10/06/2018 9:38:07 PM PDT by robowombat
ISTANBUL — Turkey has concluded that Jamal Khashoggi, a prominent journalist from Saudi Arabia, was killed in the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul earlier this week by a Saudi team sent “specifically for the murder,” two people with knowledge of the probe said Saturday.
Turkish investigators believe a 15-member team “came from Saudi Arabia. It was a preplanned murder,” said one of the people. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing investigation.
They offered no specific evidence to back up the account. Earlier Saturday, however, Turkey’s Anadolu news agency said the Istanbul public prosecutor’s office had opened a probe into Khashoggi’s disappearance. Turkish authorities have said that Khashoggi never left the consulate
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The article offers interesting info.
If murder was the primary goal, they did not need so many potential loose lips.
An IED or street assassination would be much more effective and private.
They only ever needed to copy Israeli and Russian tactics.
Nine days after journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in the Saudi consulate in Turkey's Istanbul on Oct. 2, a chemist and toxicologist were sent to Istanbul to get rid of the body and eliminate evidence, Turkish daily Sabah reported on Monday.
Chemist Ahmed Abdulaziz Aljanobi and toxicology expert Khaled Yahya Al Zahrani were part of an 11-member delegation from Saudi Arabia that that entered Turkey via Istanbul's Sabiha Gökcen Airport on Oct. 11 as part of the joint investigation into the disappearance of Khashoggi.
“According to the information we received from a reliable source, the (Turkish; my comment) investigation teams found a blood sample during the search. And a sample was taken from the wall. That means the Saudis couldn't completely eliminate all evidence, said retired murder detective Savas Kurtbaba.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/saudi-experts-spent-six-days-cleaning-consulate-after-khashoggi-killing-report-3465421
More from Sabah:
Turkey has given recordings on the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi to Saudi Arabia, the United States, Germany, France and Britain, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.
A good background and the family tree of the royal house in Saudi
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday became the first Western leader to acknowledge his country had received the recordings of the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
“Canada has been fully briefed up on what Turkey had to share,” Trudeau said from the Canadian Embassy in Paris, where he was attending the Peace Forum following the WWI Armistice centenary.
https://www.delta-optimist.com/trudeau-canadian-intelligence-has-heard-khashoggi-tapes-1.23494931
Who cares? This terrorist-supporting scumbag is a nobody, and his terrorist-supporting scumbag buddy, Erdogan, deserves no attention.
Why do we not care?
1. Kashoggi was not a US citizen
2. Kashoggi was not a journalist
3. Kashoggi was supporting terrorists
4. Kashoggi is the latest focus of our President’s enemies.
Let dogs or pigs eat his rotten corpse, and let his name be forgotten.
and now the Blame Game:
Saudi Arabia’s public prosecutor has concluded that an intelligence officer ordered Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, and not Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
The public prosecutor has charged 11 people over the murder and is seeking the death penalty for five of them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-middle-east-46222337
Saud Al-Qahtani is not tweeting here https://twitter.com/saudq1978 , but according to https://arabicpost.com/politics/middle_east/2018/11/17/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%AD%D8%B7%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B3-%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D9%88%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9/ he is still doing his normal work for MbS and is not in jail nor in house arrest and visited Abu Dhabi on governmental business a few days ago.
Turkey is still holding a lot of info to be released later. What will happen next?
This 8 min video is a good description of what happened https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000006154117/khashoggi-istanbul-death-saudi-consulate.html
According to Mujtahidd https://twitter.com/mujtahidd King Salman is suffering from Alzheimer and https://www.healthline.com/health/congestive-heart-failure
More chatter about replacing MbS with Prince Ahmed bin Abdulaziz https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/report-saudi-royals-turn-king-favourite-son-killing-181120035219219.html
“They (the security apparatus) will follow any consensus reached by the family.”
Important:
When the king dies or is no longer be able to rule, the 34-member Allegiance Council, a body representing each line of the ruling family to lend legitimacy to succession decisions, would not automatically declare MBS the new king.
Even as crown prince, MBS would still need the council to ratify his ascension, one of the three Saudi sources said. While the council accepted King Salman’s wish to make MBS crown prince, it would not necessarily accept MBS becoming king when his father dies, especially given that he sought to marginalise council members.
The Saudi sources say MBS has destroyed the institutional pillars of nearly a century of Al Saud rule: the family, the clerics, the tribes and the merchant families. They say this is seen inside the family as destabilising
Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister repeated that Saudi Arabia’s government and leadership were not involved in Jamal Khashoggi’s murder.
He said Saudi Arabia’s investigation is ongoing and that the kingdom would like to see more cooperation from Turkey.
“If you think our trials and our investigation is a Mickey Mouse one, criticize us but wait until it’s done,” he said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/21/saudi-arabia-declared-guilty-over-khashoggi-murder-without-people-seeing-the-facts.html
Meanwhile:
In a religious TV show, Saudi cleric Muhammad Al-Munajid discussed the position of Islamic law with regard to mice, saying that since they were “steered by Satan,” it was permissible to kill it.
“Mickey Mouse has become an awesome character, even though according to Islamic law, Mickey Mouse should be killed in all cases.
https://www.memri.org/tv/saudi-cleric-muhammad-al-munajid-mickey-mouse-must-die
From Mujtahidd:
The National Guard is on alert
https://twitter.com/mujtahidd/status/1066322872841510912
It is not an easy life in the royal family:
There could be repercussions from his marginalization of rival princes as he consolidated his grip on power. Sentencing to death five of the 11 people charged with Khashoggi’s murder may undermine the trust the Saudi security services, a key bulwark against opposition, have in the prince.
Argentinian authorities are looking into possible criminal charges against Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as he prepares to attend the Group of 20 international meeting of world leaders this week in Buenos Aires, officials involved in the inquiry said.
Ignatius has written a good background: The Khashoggi killing had roots in a cutthroat Saudi family feud
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/the-khashoggi-killing-had-roots-in-a-cutthroat-saudi-family-feud/2018/11/27/6d79880c-f17b-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html
The Emir of Qatar received a written message from the King of Saudi Arabia, inviting the Emir to attend the 39th Summit of the Supreme Council of the GCC, to be held on Dec 9.
https://twitter.com/QNAEnglish/status/1070035664689946625
Perhaps this is correct:
Saudi King Salman is to have agreed to a proposal by his brother Prince Ahmad to set up an advisory team to provide him with advice and consultancy about the transition of power in the Kingdom.
http://www.tacticalreport.com/view_news/Saudi-King-Salman-Prince-Ahmad-and-transition-of-power/5973
Prince Ahmed meets with Prince Alwaleed and his brothers
https://twitter.com/stephenkalin/status/1070432838053478400
Something’s cooking in KSA. Maximum alert level at the royal palace Friday morning.
https://twitter.com/mujtahidd/status/1070959987025960961
The Saudi ambassador to the United States Prince Khalid bin Salman returned to Washington on Wednesday.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/12/saudi-ambassador-returns-washington/577513/
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