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Feds Force Suspect To Unlock An Apple iPhone X With Their Face
Forbes ^ | 9/30/18 | Thomas Brewster

Posted on 10/01/2018 6:59:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 10/01/2018 6:59:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Their face?

He had more than one?................


2 posted on 10/01/2018 7:00:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Q............PREPARE FOR 'SKY IS FALLING' WEEK...........................)
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To: LibWhacker

Facial recognition is convenient for the user, but I would personally rather input a code. Maybe a combination of face recognition or thumbprint AND a code would be better.


3 posted on 10/01/2018 7:04:26 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: LibWhacker

“Rag doll” theory of search warrant.
If police can use your limp uncooperative body to gather information, they don’t need your consent.

And if you’re trying to secure information related to illegal/immoral activity, don’t use biometrics for security.

BTW: pressing the volume-up and sleep buttons together disables Face ID. You can also disable biometrics outright, specify a long complex passcode, and set the device to “brick” after 10 failed attempts. Apple has done everything they can to provide real security if you want it, while also providing the convenience of biometrics if you prefer.


4 posted on 10/01/2018 7:05:02 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: Red Badger
No, it was a case of reverse Siamese-ism. Two bodies, one head.

(Apparently Forbes is now staffed by illiterates too.)

5 posted on 10/01/2018 7:08:53 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: LibWhacker

Read this earlier this morning—they used a search warrant, so not an issue. But they could just as easily ignored that step. Seems fingerprints and face need more explicit protection or recognition. As I am preparing to buy a new Xs Max with facial recognition, my only consolation is that I don’t do anything illegal. Like fingerprints, I’ll turn on facial recognition.


6 posted on 10/01/2018 7:09:15 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: Fightin Whitey
(Apparently Forbes is now staffed by illiterates too.)

Or they are two-faced..................

7 posted on 10/01/2018 7:09:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Q............PREPARE FOR 'SKY IS FALLING' WEEK...........................)
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To: Red Badger

Some people do, ya know..Lou Christie for example.


8 posted on 10/01/2018 7:10:21 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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To: LibWhacker; Swordmaker

Ping!

Hey, would a PHOTOGRAPH unlock the iPhone?...............


9 posted on 10/01/2018 7:10:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Q............PREPARE FOR 'SKY IS FALLING' WEEK...........................)
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Their face?

He had more than one?................

It’s the f’ing pronoun problem. If I were a writer on a well-known publication, I would use “their” also. Easy way to side-step the thought police.


10 posted on 10/01/2018 7:11:19 AM PDT by samtheman (Lets elect as many Republicans as possible in 2018)
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Just drop the ‘their’ altogether.............


11 posted on 10/01/2018 7:13:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Q............PREPARE FOR 'SKY IS FALLING' WEEK...........................)
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To: ctdonath2
And if you’re trying to secure information related to illegal/immoral activity, don’t use biometrics for security.

Doesn't need to be either illegal or immoral - if you do not consent to sharing data on your smart device with law enforcement, don't depend on biometrics.
12 posted on 10/01/2018 7:13:52 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Hey, would a PHOTOGRAPH unlock the iPhone?...............

When the iPhone X was introduced last year, it was demonstrated that a child who happened to look like his mom could unlock her phone. Hopefully the technology is improving.
13 posted on 10/01/2018 7:15:22 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Two factor authentication is your friend.

Something you have.
Something you know.

Your face, your fingerprint, your retina, etc.
A simple passcode that’s in your memory.

Search warrant won’t help them.
But maybe Apple Corp. would.


14 posted on 10/01/2018 7:18:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: LibWhacker

well THIS sounds like something that could tie-up our entire Federal court system for the next thirteen years...


15 posted on 10/01/2018 7:18:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger

I know. People have really butchered our language. They’re afraid to use the masculine and feminine.


16 posted on 10/01/2018 7:19:44 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: Red Badger

I have the iPhone X and I believe a photograph is insufficient. The way Apple implemented FaceID — and I’m probably simplifying the actual process — is that it uses stereo cameras (one visible, one IR) with a projected IR dot grid to build a 3D mesh of your face from multiple angles.

The calculated values are hashed and stored in a protected area of the phone, accessible only through Apple’s interface.

A photograph would not return the correct depth map and would be rejected. It’s actually quite amazing what they pulled of. It’s accurate, fairly quick, and works in a wide variety of lighting conditions.

It can even work if you are wearing glasses (including sunglasses) or haven’t shaved in a while. Although I’ve found after about 10 days of going without a shave it can get a little confused sometimes.

As always, you can disable it and go to a complex passcode if you prefer.


17 posted on 10/01/2018 7:20:16 AM PDT by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

hmmm, and yet you can pay for things this way...


18 posted on 10/01/2018 7:20:52 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Swordmaker

Ping


19 posted on 10/01/2018 7:21:15 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t know but I’m betting not. The article says they’ve designed in “liveliness” detection; i.e., Apple has tried to make certain facial recognition won’t work with a person’s dead face. They didn’t say exactly how they achieved that... whether by looking for color in the face or looking for small movements in the eyes or muscles of one’s face, etc.


20 posted on 10/01/2018 7:21:25 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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