Texas State Board of Education votes to erase Hillary Clinton from history curriculum

The Hill ^ | 9/14/2018 | Aris Folley

[HamiltonJay]

Exactly. Hillary’s only noteworthy historical accomplishment from a general US history perspective is little more than Geraldine Ferraro’s.. first woman to top a ticket.. that’s it.

If you are studying certain specific events that she was part of sure, but just general US History she doesn’t rate any mention beyond that fact.

[Bethaneidh]

And how is it that she agreed exactly with her keeper every single time? I haven’t seen evidence that any of her independent thoughts got recorded. Was anyone else ever taught that “secret code”? Did anyone else ever converse with her without the keeper “interpreting”?

[Impy]

You gotta wonder how many of Helen Keller’s thoughts were actually her own. She never had a chance, there was no one to tell her anything different than her commie friends.

[Svartalfiar]

Censorship?

Other than Clinton being the first woman at the top of a major party ticket... nothing else she has done is worthy of note in a HS class.

Can you name any other Secretary of State that you would have learned about in HS? Or a senator of not much note ?

Nope.

Excepting Hillary/McCain/Romney/Gore since they were very recent, how many Presidential losers can you name?

Knowing some politics maybe Goldwater or Dewey, but can you think of any others? Yea, several won a later election, but can you (much less your average/excellent student) name any only-losers?

[HamiltonJay]

The point is, they actually removed Goldwater too, but you can’t rule up your left wing audience with that one. And he was far more influential to US politics than Hillary.

She is noteworthy because she was the first woman to top a major party ticket... but if I were to list out 100 people as required learning for american history. That would not likely be in the top 100, and if it did it would be way down the list.

[Svartalfiar]

The point is, they actually removed Goldwater too, but you can’t rule up your left wing audience with that one. And he was far more influential to US politics than Hillary.

She is noteworthy because she was the first woman to top a major party ticket... but if I were to list out 100 people as required learning for american history. That would not likely be in the top 100, and if it did it would be way down the list.

Hm. I would bet dollars to donuts that they're still mentioned, but only as a side note (got beat in election, this Pres's SoS), and not as an actual main article/section. I'm pretty sure my history textbook had a chart of all the Pres elections, but we definitely didn't study any of the election losers.

And current events usually aren't a history subject. A good history teacher will include some content on their own, but as I recall, our textbook ended with maybe a short chapter on 9/11 and mostly said anything since was too current to really look at properly from a historical perspective.

[Svartalfiar]

Of course, Civics really needs to be separated out from history and social studies and made into its own separate year-long class. Our populace is way too ignorant on how government works (ours/others) and just basic civics knowledge.

[otness_e]

She may not have known about the USSR’s horrors, or those of the various Communist movements, but she most certainly knew about the horrors conducted by the Jacobins during the French Revolution, so she still deserves to be condemned for that especially when she voiced praises for that event and indicated she had zero regret for it. I believe her exact words there were, and I quote, “I am not for peace at all hazards. I regret this war (World War I), but I have never regretted the blood of the thousands spilled during the French Revolution”.

And quite frankly, that alone deserves her to be blacklisted from textbooks. It’s already bad enough that Marx was inspired to make Communism from the French Revolution, especially in the sense that he wanted to make it an even gorier retread of that event.

[HamiltonJay]

I agree the replacement of civics with “social Studies” was a major dumbing down

[x]

A century ago, many Americans were terrified that something like the French Revolution would happen here. When you remember that American millionaires were building French-style chateaus and holding balls where they dressed up like pre-Revolutionary aristocrats you can understand their concern.

Some Americans in Helen Keller's young years saw the Populists as a frightening replay of the revolutionary mobs. Others turned towards Progressivism, thinking that reforms were necessary to prevent a French-style revolution.

But some people got their view of the French Revolution from novels and stories of starving peasant children being run over by carriages and arrogant aristocrats abducting and ravishing poor women. Helen Keller may have been one of those who shared a romantic view of the Revolution, a view that stayed around for generations.

I'm not saying this to excuse Keller - her romantic view of the French Revolution made her an admirer of Lenin and the Bolsheviks in all their murderousness - but that romantic view was common until a few decades back, and became much rarer only in recent years.

[otness_e]

I doubt someone who has a “romantic view” of the French Revolution would explicitly reference the gorier aspects of the French Revolution and explicitly voice support for that kind of carnage or feel no remorse toward it or the thousands of lives it claimed. If anything, the romantic types would be disgusted with the blood and/or be unaware of it. I had a history teacher in my Sophomore year of High School who ALSO had a very romantic view of the French Revolution, practically cheering on the fact that they killed Christians and the king, yet even HE expressed disgust towards the Reign of Terror which claimed lots of lives, citing that Robespierre was “stupid” for conducting it. From the way Keller was talking, she even supported the Reign of Terror.

And I’m not entirely sure that romantic view has disappeared. If anything, it’s grown more prevalent, especially when there’s a major film company that’s making a movie about the French Revolution and even paints it in a positive light.

[buffyt]

Dang it, that is exactly what I was going to say! Bwahahahaha I heard about this on the news here in Texas and my coffee went spewing out my nose and ears! Very soon no one will remember her name!

[buffyt]

nothing else she has done is worthy of note in a HS class.

She had a LOT of people KILLED! That is all I can think of! Oh and she destroyed any woman who came forward to say Billy Boy raped or tried to rape her..... That is all I can think of LOL