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Why Do People Stay When a Hurricane Comes? (looters not mentioned)
NY Times ^ | 9/14/18 | Nicole Stephens

Posted on 09/14/2018 12:34:48 PM PDT by Libloather

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With my collaborators MarYam Hamedani, Hazel Markus, Hilary Bergsieker and Liyam Eloul, I conducted a psychological study of Hurricane Katrina survivors and relief workers, as well as Americans who watched the disaster from afar. We found that outside observers — and even the relief workers providing aid — viewed those who evacuated as “self-reliant” and “hard-working,” while they denigrated those who stayed behind, calling them “lazy,” “negligent” and “stubborn.”

These characterizations, rooted in pervasive American attitudes of independence, presume everyone in harm’s way has a clear ability to leave when, in reality, many lack reliable transportation or the money for gas and a hotel room.

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While it’s virtually impossible to untangle what precise percentage of residents stay because of material reasons as opposed to cultural ones, in our study the average annual income of people who stayed was only $19,500, and only 54 percent of “stayers” had a car, compared to 100 percent of those who left.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coast; hurricane; illresearched; looters; nc; shallowreporting
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Where did you want her to go?

You bought the hype.


41 posted on 09/14/2018 4:30:34 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Libloather

Some guys stay in case roofs fail and other things. You cant get back into a lot of places if you leave. If you dont want mother nature and animals makingthe damage worse, someone who knows how to patch and fix things stays. Family,goes before the storm. you gotmtools and gas and a generator, its why some stay.


42 posted on 09/14/2018 4:47:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: plain talk

“Some like to appear macho to family and friends.”

And some do protect their families and friends without appearances. If you don’t have the balls to protect your family, pray that someone else will step up in your stead.


43 posted on 09/14/2018 6:39:09 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: sergeantdave

I’ve been through many hurricanes. Most times I stayed because the storm did not appear life threatening. A few times I evacuated, e.g. Camille. I’ve never had anyone loot or rob my house. Are belongings worth the lives of one’s family?

It’s a ridiculous argument.


44 posted on 09/14/2018 6:50:44 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Do what you want.


45 posted on 09/14/2018 7:05:22 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Libloather

“Looters are getting arrested as Hurricane Florence slams North Carolina”

And you can bet your bottom dollar that’s racist.


46 posted on 09/14/2018 9:33:21 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Terry L Smith

The reason so little thought is put into this problem is because city ‘elites’ don’t have to worry - they put their families in the new SUV - call in to say won’t be coming to work for a week or so - and they leave.

It’s the same reason public transportation doesn’t work - the people who design it don’t use it...


47 posted on 09/14/2018 10:18:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (Deep State power peaked during the McCain funeral - it's down from here on out.)
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To: Libloather

Lots of folks haven’t been through one and their minds tell them a lot of false things. Others may be lazy and stay for “convenience” or lack the wherewithal to move out and still make ends meet. Some are young, dumb, and full of ____________(something) and think of it as a opportunity for some “real fun”. Lots of excuses to stay put - no surprise that even though the authorities mentioned, for days, that if folks didn’t leave and then got into trouble, emergency crews would not be able to go to them once conditions got bad enough for them to get into trouble....yet a LOT of 911 calls for help were being received...


48 posted on 09/15/2018 3:38:20 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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Bump


49 posted on 09/15/2018 9:01:16 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Liz

The reason so little thought is put into this problem is because city officials don’t have to worry - they put their families in the new SUV - call in to say won’t be coming to work for a week or so - and they leave.

It’s the same reason public transportation doesn’t work - the people who design it don’t use it...


50 posted on 09/15/2018 9:07:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep State power peaked during the McCain funeral - it's down from here on out.)
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To: Terry L Smith

Why people even live in New Orleans is in itself foolish....


51 posted on 09/15/2018 10:49:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: GOPJ

There’s been plenty enough televised disasters that people should have some sort of plan for the worst should an evacuation or natural disaster threaten.

Heck even here where I’m safe if worst came to worst there’s a school house at the top of a hill in short walking distance....I would break in if necessary to be out of the danger.


52 posted on 09/15/2018 10:54:13 AM PDT by caww
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To: trebb

....” Lots of ‘excuses’ to stay put”....

And ‘all’ are a choice to risk death over life regardless of how they try to reason otherwise.

There was loads and loads of warnings about this....so those who stayed are without excuse really.


53 posted on 09/15/2018 10:58:51 AM PDT by caww
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To: trebb

....” Lots of ‘excuses’ to stay put”....

And ‘all’ are a choice to risk death over life regardless of how they try to reason otherwise.

There was loads and loads of warnings about this....so those who stayed are without excuse really.


54 posted on 09/15/2018 10:58:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: Libloather
After Sandy. A word to the wise. (I'd have put three or four "X"s in the lower left to enforce the point.)


55 posted on 09/15/2018 2:37:07 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: eyedigress

Away from the beach?


56 posted on 09/15/2018 8:39:15 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: caww

No argument with you - some minds don’t always work right when it comes to discerning a threat to one’s well being - any foggy highway and the drivers on it will serve to demonstrate...


57 posted on 09/16/2018 2:31:34 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: caww
There’s been plenty enough televised disasters that people should have some sort of plan for the worst should an evacuation or natural disaster threaten.

True. I have plans based on the strength of the hurricane. Hurricanes four and over (go inland stay with friends), for smaller hurricanes a two room apartment in a non-evacuation zone (20 minutes away) and for Category one storms and under staying home and riding it out.

58 posted on 09/16/2018 7:00:26 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep State power peaked during the McCain funeral - it's down from here on out.)
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To: BobinIL

If I lived in a hurricane prone area, I would have a house on high ground that was storm worthy. I would top trees regularly, or keep them far from the dwelling. My uncle had a cottage on Cape Cod that has been there for a hundred years, and should survive at least another 100.


59 posted on 09/17/2018 2:57:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Molon Labe)
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To: caww

Somebody has to cook all that good food, which means a kitchen staff.
Somebody has to run the daily sidewalk cleaning equipment, and have been doing so, since 2000.
Somebody has to wear a cop uniform, to enforce the midnight endings of Mardi Gras.
And, finally, somebody has to run the ferry from Algiers to downtown New Orleans, so folks can go to work.


60 posted on 09/24/2018 6:38:01 AM PDT by Terry L Smith (.)
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