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Hurricane Florence Live Thread II
NHC/NOAA ^ | 12 September 2018 | NHC/NOAA

Posted on 09/12/2018 1:53:29 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The National Hurricane Center has been issuing advisories for Hurricane Florence since August 30. The five day "Cone of Uncertainty" archive progression since Aug. 30 may be found here. As the super-size storm named Florence approached the U.S. Atlantic Coast, stories abound of people who are refusing to evacuate barrier islands.

The 82nd Airborne has relocated all of its assets, while FEMA is using Fort Bragg as a major staging area for post-storm supplies, including meals, water and cots. Fort Jackson (Columbia SC) has cancelled events including basic training graduation to prepare for military and civilian evacuees from coastal locations.

While hurricane preparations are rushed to completion, some stores are closing for lack of hurricane supplies inventory. Smart phone app Gas Buddy provides updates for gasoline availability along evacuation routes.

Wave heights to 83 ft. were recorded while Hurricane Florence churned 435 miles from Wilmington, NC. Storm surge is predicted to reach 6-13 ft along the coastline to the N of landfall. Steering currents are forecast to collapse at or near landfall, resulting in Florence meandering for days. This is expected to result in up to 40 inches of rainfall in isolated areas in the Carolinas, and up to a foot of rain in the Appalachian Mountains.

Tropical Storm Isaac: The government of France has issued Tropical Storm Warnings and Watches for the Lesser Antilles.

Invest 95L: The National Hurricane Center predicts 70% chance of development in the Gulf of Mexico. Limited forecast models, satellite graphics and GOM buoy info are available for Invest 95L below.

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Hurricane Florence Isaac Invest 95L
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Florence Public Advisory Isaac Public Advisory
Florence Forecast Discussion Isaac Forecast Discussion
Buoy/Observations near Florence Buoy/Observations near Isaac Buoys Western GOM

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Local Weather:
Norfolk VA
Morehead City NC
Raleigh NC
Fayetteville NC
Wilmington NC
Charleston SC/Savannah GA
Jacksonville FL
San Juan PR

Hurricane Florence & Isaac Thread I



TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: braking; florence; hurricane; hurricaneflorence; hurricaneflorenceii; isaac; nautinurse; tropical
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To: janetjanet998
Please drop the intensity level "measuring stick". The surge from the stall and rainfall amounts will make intensity irrelevant. THIS IS A DANGEROUS STORM for coastal and inland areas. It could be a tropical storm for all I care.

Weakening/Eye wall replacement cycles has caused the storm to expand the hurricane force/TS (A stronger storm is usually tighter) wind field which makes the situation WORSE in light of the stalling factor. The areas that this storm is affecting already have record rainfalls.
101 posted on 09/12/2018 5:01:58 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: PeteB570

Our prayers in the Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill area must be stronger than the folks in South Carolina....</s >


102 posted on 09/12/2018 5:03:04 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: janetjanet998

public advisory from a few minutes ago dropped it to 115mph

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT1+shtml/122354.shtml?


103 posted on 09/12/2018 5:03:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: Mr Fuji
Congratulations for your accomplishments today. All best wishes for a restful night of sleep.

Good to know your stepson is receiving medical treatment.

104 posted on 09/12/2018 5:05:08 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: Mr Fuji

Diabetes is controllable. Stay safe and we are thinking of you.


105 posted on 09/12/2018 5:09:53 PM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: abb; abbi_normal_2; aberaussie; abner; AbsoluteGrace; alancarp; Alas Babylon!; Alia; ...
Florence with additional slight weakening...
Life threatening storm surge and rainfall expected...

SUMMARY OF 800 PM Advisory...
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About 335 MI...SE of Wilmington NC
About 370 MI...ESE of Myrtle Beach SC
Maximum Sustained Winds...115 MPH
Present Movement...NW at 16 MPH
Minimum Central Pressure...956 MB...

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 70 miles from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 195
miles.


On/Off Hurricane List Mash Here-->

106 posted on 09/12/2018 5:10:47 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: Charles Martel
Waveland was a sad place after Katrina .
People died needlessly there .
My wife's family lost a second home nearby on Pass Christian.
Nothing was left to salvage.
107 posted on 09/12/2018 5:13:24 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever)
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To: NautiNurse

My concern are the Nuclear Reactors. N.C. has 4 reactors and 4 nuclear waste ponds, S.C. has 7 Nuclear Reactors and waste ponds as well. This could cause far more damage than mere hurricane rain and winds.

The ponds are kept cool by water swirling around them. If cold water can’t contain them, then the reactors and ponds can heat up and explode.

Keep praying!


108 posted on 09/12/2018 5:15:31 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight ("Victorious warriors win first, thenSes go to war." Sun Tzu)
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To: NautiNurse

pressure rising, wind speed falling is the best news I’ve heard in 2 days


109 posted on 09/12/2018 5:16:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: thoughtomator

Again there is enough energy this close to shore to make the CAT irrelevant.

Mississippi found that out with Katrina. Got hit with a “3/2/1 (In many places)”, damage was extensive regardless of the CAT because of the energy already present.

Only saving grace is that the east ridge weakens and this thing quickly goes north east (Away from CONUS).

Moving more to the north and east past the forecast points right now. Either way, it’s still not good because a lot of people are going to experience heartache and loss (Hopefully just material things).


110 posted on 09/12/2018 5:17:34 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
Indeed, the wind speed is not going to be the cause of most concern.

Obviously sustained tropical storm force and/or hurricane force winds over a period that could exceed 24 hours, depending on the stall, is nothing to sneeze at, but it is the sheer breadth of the storm that will cause the storm surge (again, possibly for 24+ hours) to create massive coastal flooding (and push that surge far inland).

And that isn't even mentioning the potential for very widespread freshwater flooding from torrential rains over a very large area. Note with a prolonged and powerful surge, the freshwater flooding potential (and intensity) is magnified since the natural path of the freshwater away from the inland areas can be hampered by a long duration surge.

Put simply, a potential long duration stall (as they are forecasting) of a storm of this size, spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E for many, regardless of the wind speed.

111 posted on 09/12/2018 5:19:42 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: stilloftyhenight

You can be confident we won’t be experiencing a Fukushima. This is a storm with many days’ lead time to prep, not a tsunami generated by an unexpected large earthquake.


112 posted on 09/12/2018 5:23:41 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: Mr Fuji

What a relief to have answers and chores done.


113 posted on 09/12/2018 5:23:56 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves ever)
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To: janetjanet998

Weather.com has current wind speed at 115 mph.


114 posted on 09/12/2018 5:25:35 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (The FBI recommends you do your fishing with an OCONUS lure)
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To: NautiNurse
Stories abound of people who are refusing to evacuate barrier islands.

They are asking for the Galveston experience. Good luck.

115 posted on 09/12/2018 5:28:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: Andy'smom

I have been by there many many times, but, never in. Should be ok anyway. Gov’t would make them close and evacuate the island if they were really worried about surge.

As it is, the wind down this way will be coming off the land.

SHOULD keep the surge down.

I can’t promise anything, but, I’ve lived in the area for 58 years now. Should be ok.


116 posted on 09/12/2018 5:28:36 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: NautiNurse

Looks like the storm is fizzling out.


117 posted on 09/12/2018 5:30:46 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: snarkpup

It flooded my town here in So.Vt above the historic high flood level in three hours. Wiped out all access in and out for three days, and heavy truck access for two weeks. No power for days and no fuel. I’m well prepared so no problem for my family, power, heat hot and cold running water. I have all manner of vehicles with abilities beyond most, but many suffered and we’re in the mountains 150 mi from the sea.


118 posted on 09/12/2018 5:30:50 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: ScottfromNJ

I wish it would fizzle out but I wouldn’t bet on it.


119 posted on 09/12/2018 5:31:44 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: NautiNurse

Based on the Blame Trump Media, wouldn’t it be easier to just ask the POTUS where he plans on directing the Hurricane with his Weather Machine?

Best bet is that he found the old Bush-Rove Weather Machine abandoned in the Basement of the White House.


120 posted on 09/12/2018 5:32:23 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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