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Woman on NC coast tells MSNBC she’s not evacuating her kids because there’s ‘strength in numbers’
Twitter ^ | 09/12/18 | David Edwards

Posted on 09/12/2018 8:22:30 AM PDT by Simon Green

MSNBC spoke to a North Carolina resident on Wednesday who said that she was not obeying a mandatory hurricane evacuation because there is “strength in numbers.”

Just hours before Hurricane Florence is set to strike the Carolinas, MSNBC’s Kerry Sanders spoke to a woman named Katie who lives in Carolina Beach, North Carolina with her three children.

Katie explained that she was refusing to evacuate and instead was planning to “just try to stay safe during the hurricane.”

“I think we are going to do everything normally,” she said.

“Why the decision to stay and not fall back further inland?” Sanders asked.

“From my experience, getting back into town after the storms is very difficult,” the Carolina Beach resident insisted. “Knowing that our family and friends and our home are all here, we didn’t want to leave them unprotected for a prolonged amount of time. We are going to try to stay put.”

“We have several neighbors saying put,” she added. “We feel there is strength in numbers. We checked in with one another. We are going band together and make it through.”

It was not immediately clear from Katie’s remarks how “strength in numbers” would protect her family from a Category Four hurricane.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: darwin; florence; hurricaneflorence
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To: eyedigress

She could get killed in a wreck on the way to the grocery store.

Odds are the traffic isn’t moving fast enough to have life threatening wrecks at this point.

Read the article I posted about Ike and the Bolivar Peninsula. She’s looking at no power, no water and no roof. For MONTHS. And it isn’t like she can just hop in her car and evac simply/easily when the wind dies down.

Almost want to bet we see this stupid woman and her kids getting rescued via coast guard chopper basket sometime in the next week.


201 posted on 09/12/2018 10:29:51 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: RinaseaofDs
“Police, fire and rescue should refuse to rescue her or anyone who foolishly decides to not evacuate.”

No problem there. If it lands as even a Cat 3 there won’t be a home, nor roads to reach her.

USCG helos will be it. They are the only ones crazy enough to launch in that sort of weather.

USCG helos will not launch above 60 knot winds (I'm fairly sure of that number, maybe it's lower). They'll be torn apart.

202 posted on 09/12/2018 10:30:10 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: USCG SimTech

People on the Bolivar Peninsula literally begged for chopper rescue once the water started coming in their homes (on stilts). Choppers weren’t forthcoming due to wind restrictions. Most of those people drowned.


203 posted on 09/12/2018 10:32:28 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

This lady has made a conscious decision to stay.

That’s it. She could get killed with the other thousands of cars on the road.

You want ownership of her decisions, classic.


204 posted on 09/12/2018 10:32:43 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Black Agnes

Put the money down.


205 posted on 09/12/2018 10:33:43 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: eyedigress

Wow.

Did you miss my delegating her to Darwin earlier?

Learn to read.


206 posted on 09/12/2018 10:43:03 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

How many people didn’t evacuate for Ike in Galveston?

I’ve seen an estimate up to 180,000.

So the media is manufacturing fake news by only focusing on the deaths. They make it seem that everybody who remained died.


207 posted on 09/12/2018 10:43:17 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Black Agnes

This article indicates that the Bolivar Peninsula was dominated by older, cheaper houses, some would call shacks.


208 posted on 09/12/2018 10:44:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Moonman62

The article I posted was concerned mainly with the Bolivar Peninsula. Geographically similar to the Carolina Beach area.

Galveston has many areas that weren’t inundated by Ike. Also IIRC it wasn’t on the ‘dirty’ side of Ike.

There were few survivors on the Bolivar Peninsula.


209 posted on 09/12/2018 10:47:41 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I didn’t miss anything. I especially didn’t miss the FReepers telling this lady what to do.

It isn’t your call. If she were to leave and get killed, what would all these know it all FReepers say?

Stay out of the mind of a man. Only GOD owns that.


210 posted on 09/12/2018 10:50:53 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Moonman62

Did you see the picture I posted earlier?

Most of the homes were on stilts. Hardly ‘shacks’ from the picture. Not sure where you got ‘shacks’.

Even those that ‘survived’ were entirely washed through up to the 3rd level with water/waves. The ‘house survived but the occupants didn’t’ was a common refrain in some neighborhoods.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1057790/Pictured-The-images-showing-Hurricane-Ike-did-Texas-coast-U-S-death-toll-hits-51.html

Those homes are not shacks.


211 posted on 09/12/2018 10:51:40 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Simon Green

I understand this woman’s position. After Fredrick in 1979, we went 2 weeks without power. We were 30 miles from the Gulf. It was surely the most miserable time of my life.

Perhaps she thinks staying in a shelter several days is worse that staying on the barrier island. She is in for a rude awakening, if they survive.

Look at a map. She lives within 10 blocks of the ocean. She has water on 2 sides. She is ~10 miles from the nearest bridge to the mainland. She is directly in the path of the storm. The storm surge, perdicted at 18 feet, will get them if the wind doesn’t.

Even if they survive the storm, no one will be able to help them for at least 24 hours. Roads will be impassable, water, sewer, & power will be out for weeks. Their car will be flooded. They will be stuck in place for days, at best. Cooking will be limited to a charcoal grill or a camp stove, yet all food will need to be cooked thoroughly. Perishables will be rotten in a couple of days. Mosquitoes will swarm. Four people will need over 500 gallons of clean water to last a week. There will be broken glass, boards & shingles with nails in them, & many other hazards.

I wouldn’t try this as an adult. I certainly wouldn’t risk 3 children’s lives.


212 posted on 09/12/2018 10:51:45 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Moonman62

So, you’re saying more people die from automatic car windows that won’t open (so they can climb out of their cars) in flooded areas than from storm surge?


213 posted on 09/12/2018 10:51:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep State power peaked during the McCain funeral - it's down from here on out.)
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To: Popman
Lived in Florida for almost 30 years, been though several hurricanes including Andrew. You always can tell the ones from out of state... “how bad can it be, I’ve been though big storms up north” I just say “right”
I grew up in NY. I remember my HS science teacher explaining to us young skulls full of mush how even though it's rare odds are NY is long overdue to be hit by a major hurricane. And this was 45 yr ago. We're in Hernando Cty, by the time Irma passed through last year it was barely a cat 1, it didn't do much damage, but just because this area of FL hasn't been hit by a big one in many yrs, IT CAN HAPPEN.
214 posted on 09/12/2018 10:53:36 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: eyedigress

You never answered my question about making your spouse ‘ride it out’ in off base housing in Katrina/Camille.

Did you?


215 posted on 09/12/2018 10:54:12 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: eyedigress

Why don’t you travel to Carolina Beach and stay then?

Let us know how it was.

maybe you can help this lady and her kids.


216 posted on 09/12/2018 10:55:58 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

They were older, cheaper homes unlikely have been built to today’s requirements for the area. I said some would call them shacks.

Now they are rebuilding with better built, more expensive homes.

I guess all the scaremongering hasn’t kept them away.


217 posted on 09/12/2018 11:02:41 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Reno89519
Everyone needs to be responsible for themselves first, think. If you have reason to fear, act. Don’t depend on the government or media. We’re not sheep, we are citizens.

Good points.

218 posted on 09/12/2018 11:03:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep State power peaked during the McCain funeral - it's down from here on out.)
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To: Simon Green

“Suicide in numbers”


219 posted on 09/12/2018 11:07:27 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: Simon Green
I saw a guy on Fox who said he was going to stay on the beach in the Outer Banks for the storm.

"It's just wind and rain. Hurricanes down here are like snowstorms in NY."

Maybe he was joking, or he voted for Hillary.

220 posted on 09/12/2018 11:09:31 AM PDT by dead
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