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Don't call the Alamo's defenders 'heroic,' Texas school curriculum panel urges
The Dallas Morning News ^ | Sept. 7, 2018 | Rebekah Allen

Posted on 09/08/2018 2:22:42 PM PDT by CW_Conservative

A panel advising the State Board of Education on what seventh-graders should learn in their social studies courses has urged deleting the label "heroic" from a curriculum standard about the Alamo's defenders.

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The panel said "heroic" was a "value-charged word."

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Current seventh-grade social studies curriculum standards include the "siege of the Alamo and all of the heroic defenders who gave their lives there." The advisory committee recommended cutting the phrase "and all of the heroic defenders who gave their lives there."

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Debbie Ratcliffe, spokeswoman for the Texas Education Agency, said the recommendation was made in response to complaints that curriculum standards are too long.

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Walter Buenger, a historian who specializes in Texas history at the University of Texas at Austin, said he could understand why there may be a desire to remove as subjective a descriptor as "heroic" from discussions of those involved in the battle.

"Part of the problem with the word heroic may be that it's too simplistic," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: academicbias; alamo; austin; bushcountry; debbieratcliffe; education; foreignoccupation; historyeducation; leftismoncampus; mexico; sanantonio; santaana; texas; textbooks; walterbuenger
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To: CW_Conservative

I really hope Trump speaks out on this,

This is exactly the kind of anti- common sense, Marxist PC crap Trumpism is an explicit rebuke of.


41 posted on 09/08/2018 3:25:09 PM PDT by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President)
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To: SuperLuminal

Was thinking the same thing - of course Che was Heroic along with Castro who showed leadership... along with Obama who is stoic and eloquent (can’t go wrong when you’re saying “I” all the time)


42 posted on 09/08/2018 3:31:52 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Eleutheria5

Without crying.
But if it is tears of joy as they kiss the ground of the Great State of Texas, they should be welcome.

Originally from New Jersey, but Texas is my home.


43 posted on 09/08/2018 4:12:10 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: CW_Conservative

Yeah, teach? You stand up against thousands of enemies, knowing you have zero chance of living thru it and see what it’s like to be heroic. Until then, you’re just a pathetic, cowardly and useless pu$$y.


44 posted on 09/08/2018 4:14:19 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: CW_Conservative

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Had the other side won, they would have been heroes.........


45 posted on 09/08/2018 4:16:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CW_Conservative

What’s next? The defenders of the Alamo were white supremacist that were hating brown Mexicans? You can see that race card coming.

Just ignore the fact that it was both Texicans and Tejanos fighting against the tyranny of Santa Anna.


46 posted on 09/08/2018 4:18:44 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Fred Hayek

Done. The wall should be funded on the Texas stretch from the Texas Rangers’ budget, as a matter of state security.


47 posted on 09/08/2018 4:24:26 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Ancesthntr
The Alamo was the American Thermopylae

Indeed!

¥ At the Battle of Thermopylae, Xerxes I of Persia, with 600,000 men, met King Leonidas I of Sparta, with only 300 men. Leonidas had predicted the outcome of the battle, and so he chose only men with sons old enough to take over their family duties. Xerxes promised to spare the lives of the 300 Spartans if they would only lay down their weapons. The Spartans refused, shouting "Molon Labe" ("Come and Get Them"), and held the narrow mountain pass of Thermopylae for days. All the Spartans were eventually killed, but they inflicted such damage to the Persian army (20,000-40,000 dead) that Xerxes was unable to utterly conquer the Greek Peninsula. This act of heroism did nothing less than save Western civilization. The world that you know is due in no small part to those brave men who gave their lives 2,500 years ago. Today there lies a plaque at the site of the battle. It reads: "Go tell the Spartans, passerby, that here, by Spartan law, we lie." John Ruskin called this epitaph the noblest words ever uttered by man. The story of Thermopylae is very similar to the Alamo. Travis, Crockett, and Bowie considered their lives less important than the freedom of their people. As Otto Scott said, "Ours are the same tests and crises that our fathers and forefathers encountered." Our people face the threat of extinction today, and unless we count our lives as less important than the lives of our children, our people will perish. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

48 posted on 09/08/2018 4:26:33 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: CW_Conservative

Texans used to give such pantywastes ‘the back of their hands’ for saying something so stupid.

‘school curriculum panel’ - people who would leave the coutry rather than fight for it ?

They have to stop the weenies from california from migrating to texas ...


49 posted on 09/08/2018 5:00:44 PM PDT by elbook
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To: CW_Conservative

Query:

Is “racist” a “value-charged” word?


50 posted on 09/08/2018 5:01:55 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: CW_Conservative

Because we don’t want Hispanic people getting upset because the Marxists will whip them into a frenzy.


51 posted on 09/08/2018 5:24:18 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Vigilanteman

Some things never change.


52 posted on 09/08/2018 5:25:02 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CW_Conservative

Before we had “teachers” who successfully taught their students. Now we have “educators” who are politically correct but are totally unsuccessful at teaching students.


53 posted on 09/08/2018 5:58:25 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: CW_Conservative

Just the beginning.
California is already a colony of Mexico, now they are working on Texas.


54 posted on 09/08/2018 6:12:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: CW_Conservative

Heroic? ABDOLUTELY.

Col. Travis letter to the world from the Alamo:

To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World:

Fellow citizens & compatriots—I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna—I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man. The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken—I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch—The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country—Victory or Death.

William Barret Travis

Lt. Col. comdt

P.S. The Lord is on our side—When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn—We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels & got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves

Travis


55 posted on 09/08/2018 6:24:07 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Seaplaner

Marxist thievery of our history and Culture.


Infuriating.

To the Marxists:

This is my country.
I was born here and my ancestors arrived in the 1860s to 1900.

You guys get your own country and leave mine alone.
This country is mine. Get it?


56 posted on 09/08/2018 6:31:47 PM PDT by frank ballenger (.End noncitizen & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: upchuck

I think they were white males and as such are not acceptable.

Or, screw the Mexicans and the socialist apologists for them.

This is OUR country.

Get out and go to your country. We’re sick of you leeches.


57 posted on 09/08/2018 6:34:39 PM PDT by frank ballenger (.End noncitizen & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
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To: CW_Conservative

Always remember that Marxists like Debbie Ratcliffe, spokeswoman for the Texas Education Agency, would be more than happy to line you and your family against the wall. What prevents her from carrying out mass murder is the fact that you’re armed.


58 posted on 09/08/2018 7:18:49 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: CW_Conservative

LMAO every time a Texan belittles California when their own state is deep in the shitter with this kind of instructional directions.


59 posted on 09/08/2018 8:00:32 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: CW_Conservative

Having grown up in rural south Texas I remember cub scout skits reenacting the Alamo battle. Mexicans were not portrayed and only alluded to as “mescans”. I can’t imagine how all that has changed now. Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone were incredible heroes.


60 posted on 09/08/2018 9:40:06 PM PDT by plain talk
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