Posted on 09/03/2018 8:01:22 AM PDT by Ennis85
“In England, the mean temperature was 17.2C (63F). The 1976 record had been 17C.”
63 degrees!
Did I miss something or are they whining about temps of 63 degrees?
Well, yeah.
But this is the hottest it’s been since then!
Yeah, I look at temps in NY & DC & Chicago, and many days they are higher than here near Jacksonville, FL and I have to smile.
“It said highs for summer 2018 were tied with those of 1976, 2003 and 2006 for being the highest since records began in 1910. “
And what were the co2 levels in 1976???
Records go back 110 years? Earth has been around 5,000,000,000 years!
There is geological evidence last ice age was 15-20 thousand years ago. During that time Chicago was covered with several miles high glacier ice. Then global warming began and melted all that ice. Point is there was no man made global warming 15,000 years ago.
Climate change is as old as the earth itself. Sun is 1,300,000 times bigger than earth. Earth is just a tiny speck of sand on a beach compared to the Sun. And human beings are just a speck on the earth. We control nothing. It is the Sun which controls earth.
Not particularly in Tucson. Hot June and July -
But it all averages out eventually...:^)
Oh gee, thanks. :-) It’s only going to get worse. It’s going to be in the high 90’s all week. But I’m 8 miles from the beach.
In my town in NW Fl we had a very hot couple of weeks in July but it still only broke 100 degrees once and August has been the 2nd least warm (It is hard to use the word”cool”) in the 40 years I have lived here. In the 90s we had a series of summers that were progressively hotter and hotter. One year (I forget the precise year) there was a number of 100 degree days in August. The next year the first 100s days came in July. The year after that the first were in June and I feared what the rest of the summer would bring. July was bad but in August that year the temp never got out of the 80s and summers have been relatively mild since with this one and 2017 being milder than the last few years.
There was that Little Ice Age in there that, I think, ended in the early 1800s.
Hmmmmmmm, tied with 1976...don’t see rapid global warming there......sigh
Even though they now use Celsius, the temperature reading in Fahrenheit was more impressive looking...and presumably a lot of people still understood what it meant.
The thermometer had been invented, but the standard location of measurement until well into the 18th century was an outside window of an unheated building. Even so, the temperature records are considered reliable because they tend to match up with known indicators such as growing season lengths, ice on rivers, and crop yields. Other measurements were being taken in Holland and Sweden in the late 17th century too. The data you see in the CET record look plausible for a dormant solar era like the Maunder, in fact, the record begins just before the Maunder really kicked in (there was a weak solar peak in 1660) and you can see these early numbers cooling down and reaching their lowest point around 1675 to 1710. They start coming back up quite sharply when the Sun became more active in the period 1718 to 1787 although never reaching quite the levels of the 20th century, but at times warmer than the 19th century.
Anyway, I tend to trust these old records because they seem to correlate well with anecdotal references to snow lying, ice on rivers and bad crop years. The data were published a long time before this modern period of questionable practices about old climate records, I knew of their existence back around 1970 and I think they were compiled in the early 20th century from historical records.
As to some other points in this discussion, the 17 C mean that is warmest for the UK sounds pretty cool but don’t forget that’s an average of day and night, the average daytime temperatures in these warmer summers are around 24 C and that equates to 26 C in warmer southeast England; if you’ve ever been to Britain you’ll know that 26 C (about 80 F) feels quite toasty there. But an average mean for the summer months in the northeast U.S. would be around 23 or 24 C and daytime for a hot summer might average 32 C or about 90 F. That sort of thing only happens for brief heat wave periods in southern England, however Paris in August 2003 had a high close to 40 C (104 F). That was a killer heat wave for France and other parts of Europe.
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