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To: madprof98
Vatican II started it
2 posted on 09/02/2018 10:24:46 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks
Vatican II started it

Debauchery has been a catholic hallmark for 2000 years. The PA grand jury investigation went back 70 years, which is pre-Vatican II. 70 years is about the limit for living memory, but this really started 2000 years ago.

10 posted on 09/02/2018 10:30:08 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: laweeks

Funny you mentioned that because a while back an ordained Priest profusely blamed VII on this scandal and other things as well.

I say this because a lot of lay people say the same thing, but it is dismissed because they are ‘lay people’. Ordained Priests do as well.


17 posted on 09/02/2018 10:34:58 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: laweeks
Vatican II started it

No, it's been an ongoing problem in Catholicism for over 1,000 years.

St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah: Homosexual Situation Graver than Damian's Time

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/929551/posts

29 posted on 09/02/2018 10:51:14 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: laweeks

It was going on before VII, but VII made it policy and completely wiped out everything that had kept it - or anything else - in check.


38 posted on 09/02/2018 11:00:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: laweeks

This has been going on for hundreds of years maybe longer.


43 posted on 09/02/2018 11:07:26 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: laweeks
.....”Abuse in the church occurred not because of homosexuality but because church leaders created safe spaces for predators”......

Well that's only partially true......Since heterosexuals outnumber the homosexual population about 44 to 1, as a group the incidence of homosexuals molesting children is up to 40 times greater than heterosexuals.

73 posted on 09/02/2018 11:43:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: laweeks

The article the result of the media under pressure to create a facade over the homosexualization of the priesthood. In short, they are trying to put lipstick on a pig.


94 posted on 09/02/2018 1:42:52 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: laweeks

“Vatican II started it”

Started it, and started to end it for me. I have officially joined another church. I’ve been a bit ambivalent about it, but not after this week. I will say this, my pastor is very conservative and said to me that he thinks Vigano is like an Old Testament prophet, telling the king he’s doing wrong (my words).

They’re a mess, they need to get it together, but they seem determined to worry about straws and plastic bags, literally garbage.


95 posted on 09/02/2018 1:48:28 PM PDT by jocon307
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