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The Latest Cockamamie Scheme: Will the Split-Roll Property Tax Destroy California?
American Thinker ^ | 09/02/2018 | By Wayne Lusvardi

Posted on 09/02/2018 9:37:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Eight hundred fifty thousand signatures have been gathered in California in support of a voter initiative that would supposedly increase property taxes by 2020 for commercial and industrial properties to get around Proposition 13 property tax protections.  The initiative would leave small business and residential properties alone.  It is called the California Schools and Local Communities Funding Act.  But raising property taxes on leased commercial properties would result in lower tax revenues.

What Is Split-Roll Property Tax?

A split roll tax means applying a tax formula for commercial and industrial properties different from the formula applied for residential properties.  The tax roll is an official breakdown or list of all the properties to be taxed.

California Proposition 13 protects property-owners from very high or very low re-assessed property values each year by increasing the base value of a property by not-to-exceed 2% per year for inflation.  The market value of properties is taxed at a 1% base tax rate and is re-assessed upon re-sale, not each year.  Activists want the reassessments pegged to market value appreciation not a fixed 2% each year.

Existing:

Base Market Value: $2,000,000
Base Tax @1%: $20,000/year

Annual Adjustment @2%: $20,400 – 1st year

Annual Adjustment @2%: $20,808 – 2nd year 

Income Property Markets Work Inversely to Taxes

Most policy-makers think higher tax rates result in greater tax revenues.  But income-producing property markets work inversely by lowering property values when taxes are increased.  This market adjustment process is called by the term "tax capitalization," which means converting the net income of a commercial property into a higher or lower value depending on the change in net income. 

Split Roll Added Tax Estimate Omitted "Tax Capitalization"

The California Legislative Analyst (LAO) has forecast that a split roll property tax would generate $10 billion annually in net additional taxes.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; propertytax; taxes
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1 posted on 09/02/2018 9:37:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Newsom's 400 billion price tag health care for all will be totally funded by this....oh... maybe not.

What to do, what to do...

2 posted on 09/02/2018 9:42:02 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well the surrounding states will welcome new businesses. Hmmm, what I don’t like about this is the liberal employees following the business.


3 posted on 09/02/2018 9:43:51 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anything to feed the voracious appetite of the pie in the sky politicians of California.


4 posted on 09/02/2018 9:44:16 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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"Anything to feed the voracious appetite of the pie in the skyillegal alien friendly politicians of California"

Little tweak

5 posted on 09/02/2018 9:47:37 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of the idiots signing the Petition have no idea what the heck they are doing.

I’m sure the People with the Clipboards are telling them that it will make EVIL Big Business pay their Fair Share or something similar.

The Politics of Envy knows no limits.


6 posted on 09/02/2018 9:52:12 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: SeekAndFind

DemocRATS hard at work, trying to RAISE TAXES!


7 posted on 09/02/2018 9:59:33 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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Keep in mind that the Leftists, in fact, absolutely KNOW that they won’t get more money in. The REAL prize is being able to CONTROL the decisions that property owners must make, so in the long run private property ownership becomes a liability, not an asset. This in turn makes the government have more direct control over both the property as well as the citizenry.

In short: The expected shortfall is a FEATURE, not a BUG, intended to oppress the citizenry even more. Pure and simple.


8 posted on 09/02/2018 9:59:41 AM PDT by GOP Congress
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To: SeekAndFind

Fortunately the US is a republic. Cal not so much.


9 posted on 09/02/2018 10:00:19 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its on the same order as the appropriation of the farms in South Africa. Result will be the loss of the productive part of the economy and voila...Zimbabwe, Venezuela, South Africa and then California.


10 posted on 09/02/2018 10:00:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Divide and conquer.

Start with commercial properties, and residential properties would soon follow.


11 posted on 09/02/2018 10:03:25 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: SeekAndFind

So they’re going to Rick-Roll taxpayers?


12 posted on 09/02/2018 10:04:23 AM PDT by Beagle8U (A Muse once bit my Sister.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just another commie leftist way to steal even more of people’s money from them. Everything you buy including gas meals clothing and of course if you rent — all will necessarily go up a lot more than they already have as merchants and landlords have to cover their higher tax bills. And a good hamburger is already $10, gas is pushing 3.50 to 4.25, and rents are pushing $3000 for one bedroom and $6000 for a small old tract house — figure ten percent more , varying of course — for every body in that state. Ascthe politicians get richer and richer. Leeches. Blood leeches


13 posted on 09/02/2018 10:04:32 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind
If they want to tax corporate real estate only, then they should tax real estate the corporation relies on in other jurisdictions. That way they can avoid having a California company move out of California to some place else.

And don't just tax land / improvements that the corporation owns; tax property the corporation benefits from. For example, Apple has 300,000 employees in China. They must show up some place to work. So if California taxed that real estate because of the benefit Apple gains from it and uses to sell phone in California, the Chinese dirt/building/roads etc. should be subject to California tax.

Yes, I know that sounds crazy to people reading it on FR, but we are not the audience. Government in California is the audience. And I bet this all makes sense to them.....

14 posted on 09/02/2018 10:16:42 AM PDT by Bernard (We will stop calling you fake news when you stop being fake news.)
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To: Bernard

do you know if it’s legal for a state to tax out o stet property


15 posted on 09/02/2018 10:18:14 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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No I don’t, but “legal” seems to be one of those words that means different things to different people. And, again, we are talking about California, where rules seem to be different.


16 posted on 09/02/2018 10:21:22 AM PDT by Bernard (We will stop calling you fake news when you stop being fake news.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just cut to the chase and rename the state “Venezuela del Norte”. (Because Starnesville sounds too gringo).


17 posted on 09/02/2018 10:28:06 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SeekAndFind

California residents and businesses clearly have too much excess cash or assets. It is politicians jobs to relieve them of that cash.


18 posted on 09/02/2018 10:32:13 AM PDT by umgud
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To: SeekAndFind

This is our Last Chance to permanently destroy the Middle Class in this State, Since Donald trump took Office the middle Class began bouncing back and making inroads to a better life and prosperous future. There is no way in hell these newly prosperous people in the Middle CLass will ever vote for us now, so we need to DESTROY their Jobs and make damn sure they Need Welfare and Government subsidies.

WE NEED TO STOP IT NOW!!!


19 posted on 09/02/2018 10:33:09 AM PDT by eyeamok
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The more we give tax cuts to the wealthy the more they become Democrats and libs. Those people who would be most effected by this are the same people (wealthy rinos and self appointed elite libs) who are open borders and are the people who are really destroying California. I say let them pay the taxes.


20 posted on 09/02/2018 10:36:25 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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