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California lawmakers bump gun age to 21, ban gun show, enact long arm rationing
Guns.com ^ | 08/31/18 | Chris Egar

Posted on 08/31/2018 8:42:21 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: freedumb2003; All
The inevitable legal challenges might get stuck at the 9th circus but it they will ABSOLUTELY be upheld in SCOTUS. California continues to think it is not subject to the Constitution, except when it is convenient.

To paraphrase: The Supreme Court of the United States is expected to strike down many of these laws.

I would only bet on it if Judge Kavanaugh becomes Justice Kavanaugh.

21 posted on 08/31/2018 9:21:24 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Simon Green

Thank God for Donald Trump and a 5-4 USSC. (soon to be 6-3 with Ruthie gone)


22 posted on 08/31/2018 9:44:55 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Simon Green

“adding coworkers, employers, and school employees to the list that currently includes family members and police. “

No way this survives court challenge.

No way.


23 posted on 08/31/2018 9:47:05 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Simon Green

Voters aged 18 to 20 do much more damage to our Republic than Gunowners aged 18 to 20.

Does this mean that you can’t join the Military until you are 21 years old now? It’s hard to kill the enemy without a Forearm.


24 posted on 08/31/2018 9:53:56 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Simon Green
"long arm rationing"

What's wrong with long arms?


25 posted on 08/31/2018 9:56:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Consensus isn't science.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Trying this again. LOL

Voters aged 18 to 20 do much more damage to our Republic than Gunowners aged 18 to 20.
Does this mean that you can’t join the Military until you are 21 years old now? It’s hard to kill the enemy without a FIREARM.

Well, it’s good to have a FOREARM too, maybe even two of them.


26 posted on 08/31/2018 9:56:57 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Rebelbase
See post 24. Particularly:

It’s hard to kill the enemy without a Forearm.

27 posted on 08/31/2018 10:00:44 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Simon Green

Scott Wiener.. ex-SF Stuporvisor moving up political agenda totempole. someday we will likely have a wiener as Gubinor. He is just one of many like him. doing good where nothing is wrong and acting like he deserves a prize for doing so.


28 posted on 08/31/2018 10:02:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: Red Badger

Yep.


29 posted on 08/31/2018 10:06:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Simon Green

NEED TO
HAVE GUN,
WILL TRAVEL

http://www.nevadagunshows.com/


30 posted on 08/31/2018 10:12:13 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: NormsRevenge

A carpetbagging fag from Philadelphia. The rest of the country owes us reparations for taking in all their creeps, screwballs and malcontents. Cali is like a big concentration camp for them and what led us down this road.


31 posted on 08/31/2018 10:15:09 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: longtermmemmory

The 3 state proposition was stopped on a procedural issue. Sadly the New California concept will probably never even get a sniff.


32 posted on 08/31/2018 10:16:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Regarding this California state government threat to 2nd Amendment rights, let's consider how Democratic state government “leaders” are actually helping to get new patriot lawmakers elected to Congress in the 2018 midterm elections.

First, note that the congressional record shows that when Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A), officially read the rights expressly protected in the Bill of Rights to the House as examples of constitutional rights that the states obligated themselves to respect when they ratified 14A (ratified under very questionable circumstances) Bingham included the 2nd Amendment (2A).

John Bingham, Congressional Globe. (See 2nd Amendment about in middle of 2nd column.)

And speaking of 14A applying 2A to the states, note that 14A also shows us that the states prohibited themselves from making laws and policies that abridge constitutional enumerated rights, 2A unquestionably one of those rights.

From the 14th Amendment:

So patriots can work with their federal lawmakers to make peacetime punitive civil laws that discourage state actors from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights, including 2A.

In fact, note that the Supreme Court had clarified that regardless that 14A didn't create new rights, it gave Congress the power to make punitive civil laws that discourage state actors from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

H O W E V E R …

We're still stuck with a corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification uniparty Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration that has a track record for wrongly remaining silent while state actors, like the misguided, low-information Democrats running California, abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, particularly 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.

In fact, in stark contrast to making laws to strengthen rights from abridgment by state lawmakers, federal Democratic lawmakers promote anti-2nd Amendment gun control laws to try to get reelected.

The remedy for the constitutionally enumerated rights-ignoring Congress …

Patriots in all states need to come to the rescue of pro-2nd Amendment patriots in California by doing the following.

Patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting patriot candidates on the 2018 midterm primary ballots, candidates who will be willing to make punitive laws to discourage state actors from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.

New patriot lawmakers can start writing punitive laws that discourage state officials from abridging constitutionally enumerated rights on their first day in office.

And until the states wise up and repeal the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, evidenced by concerns about the integrity of the outcome of Alabama's and Pennsylvania's special elections, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for the following concerns.


33 posted on 08/31/2018 10:16:41 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: marktwain

Even with out Coach K we still have the majority.

I worry about Roberts but not on this one.


34 posted on 08/31/2018 10:28:02 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: BenLurkin

maybe even a good idea to wait until the brain is fully developed and make it 26?


35 posted on 08/31/2018 10:33:48 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks Simon Green.

36 posted on 08/31/2018 10:37:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SWAMP-C1PHER

Mushroom Clouds,,,
mostly Pot clouds right now!
The Dude Abides.


37 posted on 08/31/2018 10:38:54 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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“Our country is awash in guns, and schoolchildren are dying,” said the bill’s sponsor

Yup. It always for the children.

38 posted on 08/31/2018 10:45:09 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: Simon Green
I know this is going to sound counter intuitive to most, but hear me out: I think all this legislation passing a Democrat dominated assembly and senate can at least partly be blamed on Prop 13.

The only thing that most voters, Dem or GOP, liberal or conservative agree on is keeping taxes low for themselves. The only way this can be guaranteed in most states is if a simple majority of representatives are Republican.

When Prop 13 passed it meant that 2/3rds of our representatives needed to agree in order to increase taxes. At first this seems great, but there is a downside.

Now hypocritical liberals who want to expand the state while at the same time keeping their taxes low only have to make sure that a little over 1/3rd of representatives are Republican.

With Prop 13, they can have their cake and eat it too. In every other state if they wanted to make sure and keep their taxes from increasing or even getting a decrease, they would have to hold their noses and vote in a Republican majority. Something that happens occasionally in places like Massachusetts. When this happens there's a chance the Pubbies can reverse bad legislation such as these anti-gun laws.

But with taxes being treated differently than everything else there is no such chance now or in the foreseeable future.

39 posted on 08/31/2018 10:49:45 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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Hell, why'd they stop there - why not make it any random passerby. The whole concept is ripe for tyrannical abuse - which seems to be the plan.
 
 

40 posted on 08/31/2018 11:06:58 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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